Abdul is a great talent but he's too fat which slows him down and makes him a defensive weak point. He's very talented but he'll throw that away if he doesn't get himself in shape
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Jake the Peg wrote:Abdul is a great talent but he's too fat which slows him down and makes him a defensive weak point. He's very talented but he'll throw that away if he doesn't get himself in shape
Bang on the money.
His future is in his own hands. He just needs to put the kebab down and grasp it.
Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One
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airliebird,runninglate! wrote:That's a terrible counter to my post.. Fash Osbourne and matongo have viritually no games between them. Thompson is a very niche thing for us in that he's NOT a prop. Sometimes he works there sometimes it doesn't. If our marquee player and earner and 1of the best regarded 2nd rows finds himself playing dead centre field tackling and carting cos we've a few injuries we need our heads looking at. Ellis plays 3rd prop tbf as most teams do so u need 5 generally on a match day when all are fit. We have 5 and 3 kids unproven at this level
Wigan.. Mossop Clubb Flower Sutton Navarett Tautai Nuasala O loughlin (3rd prop or a ball handler)
Saints.. Amor Walmsley Douglas LLMS Thompson Richards And in market for fafita AND walker apparently
Wire.. Hill Simms Dodds Crosby Cooper Westwood Cox Bailly
Still say we're short
I wasn't trying to counter anything, merely stating that those are the players we have who can play a certain position.
However, since you brought it up... With regards to the younger lads, how do expect them to get beyond playing "virtually no games between them" if they're not seen as genuine back up and we go out and sign players who would be picked ahead of them? In that list you name Navarette, Sutton, Thompson and Richards who have all recently come through various academies, maybe we should see if our lads can do the same?
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Faithful One wrote:I wasn't trying to counter anything, merely stating that those are the players we have who can play a certain position.
However, since you brought it up... With regards to the younger lads, how do expect them to get beyond playing "virtually no games between them" if they're not seen as genuine back up and we go out and sign players who would be picked ahead of them? In that list you name Navarette, Sutton, Thompson and Richards who have all recently come through various academies, maybe we should see if our lads can do the same?
Fair enough yes..They need opportunity. But need drip feeding into it. Based on our squad with 2 or more injuries (not difficult,had our fortunes this year in that regard) we're straight into putting them into a key part of what we do as a team and hoping they'll come through ok with no previous to go on. That's not usually how teams go about winning comps. Obviously how said teams above are not going about it. It's just my opinion but we're 1 shy of the right cover. I've seen enough of the young lads mentioned to feel fine about them coming in for a game or 2 under our own terms. Long term injury (anything over 3 or 4 week to a couple of our main men I'd worry
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airliebird,runninglate! wrote:Fair enough yes..They need opportunity. But need drip feeding into it. Based on our squad with 2 or more injuries (not difficult,had our fortunes this year in that regard) we're straight into putting them into a key part of what we do as a team and hoping they'll come through ok with no previous to go on. That's not usually how teams go about winning comps. Obviously how said teams above are not going about it. It's just my opinion but we're 1 shy of the right cover. I've seen enough of the young lads mentioned to feel fine about them coming in for a game or 2 under our own terms. Long term injury (anything over 3 or 4 week to a couple of our main men I'd worry
Fair points with regards to the long term cover. It's just difficult to manage the cap I guess, so becoming reliant on the youth players are a necessity (see wigan). If it was a choice between signed another forward who may not get much game time (hopefully), or signing a 6, then I don't feel we have much option.
An outside back is a strange one for me, unless someone like Naughton is leaving.
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Faithful One wrote:Fair points with regards to the long term cover. It's just difficult to manage the cap I guess, so becoming reliant on the youth players are a necessity (see wigan). If it was a choice between signed another forward who may not get much game time (hopefully), or signing a 6, then I don't feel we have much option.
An outside back is a strange one for me, unless someone like Naughton is leaving.
The Naughton rumour is a strong one, and if he leaves it will be disappointing. He's already back in Oz.
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