Gallanteer wrote:I tweeted an idea to Hudge the other night about putting Pride Of East Hull back on the shirt.
It may make us look a little inward looking, but right now it might help galvanise local support for our club further and I think it would help sell next season's replica shirts.
It's things like that which will ensure you never move away from the small club mentality epitomised by Hudgell himself, and which runs through your club's core. Think about the connotations attached to it; it's small time, local, parochial - why would any decent sponsors outside of EH want to get on board with that?
"Rally Round The Robins" is another one that makes your club sound small time. It's just unnecessary and helps fuel the aura around the club that it needs saving.
"Stick Together, Rovers Forever" I've seen banded about too.
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DGM wrote:It's things like that which will ensure you never move away from the small club mentality epitomised by Hudgell himself, and which runs through your club's core. Think about the connotations attached to it; it's small time, local, parochial - why would any decent sponsors outside of EH want to get on board with that?
"Rally Round The Robins" is another one that makes your club sound small time. It's just unnecessary and helps fuel the aura around the club that it needs saving.
"Stick Together, Rovers Forever" I've seen banded about too.
I take your point about the pride of east hull. However, I do wonder about your opinion of Hull and Proud and the Team Hull localism espoused by your chairman and some fans? To be fair it is sometimes balanced by a bewildering degree of domineering arrogance. Less comical than normal this year, admittedly.
The others are uncontroversial enough to make me think that you're just desperately looking for ways to justify your predujices.
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Mild Rover wrote:I take your point about the pride of east hull. However, I do wonder about your opinion of Hull and Proud and the Team Hull localism espoused by your chairman and some fans? To be fair it is sometimes balanced by a bewildering degree of domineering arrogance. Less comical than normal this year, admittedly.
I don't see anything wrong with "Hull and Proud", or the "Team Hull" ethos. After all, "Hull" is in our name as a brand anyway, so I'm not sure either of those tag lines detract from what's already there. There is no way we'd ever market ourselves as "Pride of West Hull", it's just too narrow and almost creates a further niche that needn't be there.
If your team were called "East Hull Kingston Rovers", fair enough.
Mild Rover wrote:The others are uncontroversial enough to make me think that you're just desperately looking for ways to justify your predujices.
I didn't say they were controversial. I think they're unnecessary. They create the impression of a dying club, going after support from fans & sponsors by implying that the club needs saving and they're the ones to do so. It goes against the positive remarks made from Hudgell this week.
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I don'the think spending our income for 2018 12 months early and then hoping and praying we are back in S.L. makes good financial sense. This sounds like a slippery slop to a C.V.A. We should instead be working out how to utilise our assets. Why not start by offering the stadium to Toronto whilst they are in the UK. Then there's the City of Culture. With the more structured game calendar of the Championship , we could find our self's only playing at home twice in a month during the summer. We have a large car park and an empty theatre for 28 days of the month. Over to the commercial department. I know we've got the Panto this Christmas, but why not a top music act, or another sporting event.? Top comedians seem to fill the indoor arenas, but what about an outdoor event ? I'm all for speculating to accumulate, but please let's not gamble with future income.
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DGM wrote:I don't see anything wrong with "Hull and Proud", or the "Team Hull" ethos. After all, "Hull" is in our name as a brand anyway, so I'm not sure either of those tag lines detract from what's already there. There is no way we'd ever market ourselves as "Pride of West Hull", it's just too narrow and almost creates a further niche that needn't be there.
If your team were called "East Hull Kingston Rovers", fair enough.
I didn't say they were controversial. I think they're unnecessary. They create the impression of a dying club, going after support from fans & sponsors by implying that the club needs saving and they're the ones to do so. It goes against the positive remarks made from Hudgell this week.
The fans, sponsors etc. are the club - of course we're the ones to do it.
We sign players from overseas and we're too internationalist, in some people's book. We try to appeal to our core support and we're parochial. We spend big and we should be cutting our cloth. We cut costs and our board has betrayed the fans. Just so much (black and) white noise now.
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SirStan wrote:DGM goes looking for a bite like the pathetic troll it is and it's our moderator that takes the bait.
Taking one for the team never felt so apt.
Shall I dig out that quote from the second best Roosevelt that Jamie Peacock put on twitter?
No I shan't because I can't be bothered, but if I did you'd be my second conquest of the day.
That sounds wrong.
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I've no idea why Hudgell's wasting his money on Sheens and Peacock when he he could just get some of the Hull fans off here to do the job far cheaper.
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Sandro II Terrorista wrote:I've no idea why Hudgell's wasting his money on Sheens and Peacock when he he could just get some of the Hull fans off here to do the job far cheaper.
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