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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:04 pm 
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Thompson does not offer enough for me






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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:27 pm 
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hull2524 wrote:Thompson does not offer enough for me


i think this season he has not progressed at all

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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:16 pm 
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DABHAND wrote:Tony Smith has a dig at us for having too many foreign players in our side in his interview for other channels.Says Warringtons investment in local talent has paid off,easy innit when you have a very wealthy boss who can cherry pick other clubs best players.

Don't think Tony was "having a dig" at FC. He was merely pointing out that on the night in our 17 we only had one overseas player. If all were fit then we would have fielded Dodds, Sandow & Gidley.






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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:46 pm 
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Fatbelly wrote:Don't think Tony was "having a dig" at FC. He was merely pointing out that on the night in our 17 we only had one overseas player. If all were fit then we would have fielded Dodds, Sandow & Gidley.

Cheers for that Brian.

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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:22 pm 
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Thompson has bot really had any regular game time so think unfair to say he hasn't 'developed', he's done well with the very limited chances he's had.

Radford had a couple of opportunities to make more changes in the forwards and didn't, and then we lost as those on the field were knackered and not having a rest into the following week.
Houghton has been immense but that first missed tackle with Ellis bearing in mind that was only 7 minutes in were the signs of players really frazzled, Houghton barely turned around to chase back.Asking him to play 80 every single game with no back-up/respite is still a very risky decision despite how things have turned out.
Some of the late interchanges are still puzzling, bringing on some players with just 20-25 mins left and not having being used in the first half doesn't make sense to me.

Going on the lash after the CC, wrong decision, celebrate AFTER the season finishes. Yes we had an extremely hard run, yes the whole wembley thing is draining but we did have chances to win the saints game and indeed the Wigan game.
Is that hyper critical, if you like but if you want to win everything some decisions effect those chances and changing/addressing those decisions for the the future might bring us more rewards.
Dismissing that outright on the back of winning the CC is a bit shortsighted.
Will not winning/getting through to the GF be a disappointment, at this stage of the season. ..yes.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:24 pm 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Thompson has bot really had any regular game time so think unfair to say he hasn't 'developed', he's done well with the very limited chances he's had.

Radford had a couple of opportunities to make more changes in the forwards and didn't, and then we lost as those on the field were knackered and not having a rest into the following week.
Houghton has been immense but that first missed tackle with Ellis bearing in mind that was only 7 minutes in were the signs of players really frazzled, Houghton barely turned around to chase back.Asking him to play 80 every single game with no back-up/respite is still a very risky decision despite how things have turned out.
Some of the late interchanges are still puzzling, bringing on some players with just 20-25 mins left and not having being used in the first half doesn't make sense to me.

Going on the lash after the CC, wrong decision, celebrate AFTER the season finishes. Yes we had an extremely hard run, yes the whole wembley thing is draining but we did have chances to win the saints game and indeed the Wigan game.
Is that hyper critical, if you like but if you want to win everything some decisions effect those chances and changing/addressing those decisions for the the future might bring us more rewards.
Dismissing that outright on the back of winning the CC is a bit shortsighted.
Will not winning/getting through to the GF be a disappointment, at this stage of the season. ..yes.


You really can't help yourself when it comes to Radford, can you?

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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:55 pm 
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I'll forgive the team any performance after Wembley.
They gave me my greatest rugby day of my life.
I know we had the potential for the treble, but there we go.
Wire were too good for us on the night, and deserved their win.
Let's go to Wigan and see what happens.

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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:44 pm 
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The problems been showing for a while even those few games before Wembley were just won, whic covered up for poor performance. We seemed to have lost the ability to break teams down and score in open play and as the game is about momentum I'll not be getting over excited again; as I and a lot of others thought we'd have played better than that. New shirt and cap which I nearly threw way in disgust at some dumb decisions.

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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:08 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:Agree, not good enough, have better and cheaper options in reserves, i'd try and release him.

Same with hadley then, hes been no better

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 Post subject: Re: All Things. FC v Wire
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:18 pm 
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Staffs FC wrote:Agree with this. To win the CC we beat the other 4 teams at the top of the table. All massive games. Our attack actually started stumbling just prior to Wembley. At Wembley we scored from 2 kick plays but apart from those didn't really look slick at all. It's been a great season so far but I fear that we look jaded from the tough encounters we've had already. I'd never say never but it will be very hard next week against what I consider to be a tougher and more physical side than wire. The dominance that our props have had through the season appears to have dissipated and there were some pretty poor performances in a number of areas last night.

You can never write this team off as they've shown time and again. It's been a history making season but there still are IMO issues with structure and play making . That said it's easier to play behind a dominant pack and that dominance has waned in the last few games. I'm praying we can lift again one more time next week. The lads deserve their shot at the GF but it will need one of our herculean efforts to pull it off. I just wonder if a team only has so many of those games in it each season and maybe we used ours up on the way to CC glory.


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