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Psychedelic Casual wrote:IMO, it stems back from the World Cup in 2008 when Tony Smith was England coach.
I can't remember who was the on-pitch interviewer after the semi-final but he basically laid blame for the poor showing at Tony Smith's failure to integrate the Saints and Leeds players into a team and aimed at him not being able to cope with the divisions in the team.
Tony Smith's face when he said that was one of pure disbelief and he replied by saying something like "I'm really disappointed you've said that, we've worked really hard as one for this World Cup but just weren't good enough, I'm actually really angry you've come out with that" and back to the studio the nice people all pretty much said that they were right to ask the question because the fact that Danny Maguire had shorts and t-shirt on when James Graham wore a suit meant that Tony Smith had no control over the squad.
Tony Smith has never engaged with Sky much since. He doesn't tend to give anything away at all with them and doesn't look any of them in the eye in interviews at all. Oh, with the exception of Angela Powers (but she is a Wire after all). But look at the difference with him and the BBC team. He has eye contact with them, smiles, engages in conversation much more.
But I think Sky have a bit of an axe to grind still with Tony Smith and it doesn't help that Saints Eddie absolutely detests Wire anyway. Listen to the tone of his commentary at times when we score a try, he sounds like he's just been told his house got blown over in a stiff wind.
yea Smith well hates them.. bunch of muppets.
They want warrington to do badly because of how much they dont like each other.
Eddie doesn't like Wire, although living here, forging a career from here and having his hair dyed here, you'd think he'd relax his attitude towards us at times.
Stevo isn't too bad, he's pretty much the same every game. Sometimes behind the underdog in that particular game, so quite often it's not Wire.
Barrie Mac, his passion for the game clearly outstrips any sidings he has for any club, although he is fond of Leeds, he never let's that over take the sporting occasion.
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It's Jon 'I was a half decent winger for about a week' Wells that does my nut in. He bumbles about infront of that screen and 80% of the time he has no idea how to answer Brian Carneys simplest of questions.
My absolute favourite moment was when he had Todd Carney in front of the screen at the end of the game when he ran through the build up to a Catalan try:
JW: Right so this here is classic Catalans, I've seen it hundreds of times before... You've driven the ball down the left here ready for a sweep play on the end of a spread.
TC: errrr, yeah I don't know what that is but basically we've just.... (goes on to explain the play which was nothing like Jon's interpretation)
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Wells is just a chancer, who must have a relative in the Sky Sports hierarchy.
He blows it out of his aris, as moving on says, going on about spread plays and sweeps...what a load of old pony
He can barely string 5 words together, without an errrrr, an uummmmm or an embarrassing silence, so he's hardly a great broadcaster.
Add to this, he's as boring as a wet Wednesday in Frodsham. I once saw one of his "riveting" try analysis' early this season, where the whopper was convinced that the try was made possible, because of the way the previous play's tackled player got up and planted his left foot on the ground. Seriously.
I've known bosses like this plant pot. Thinking that what they're saying sounds clever, but the workforce think he's a Berk.
Thank God I cancelled my Sky subscription, so I'm not funding this fraud's I'll gotten gains.
I think to watch a match,analyse it prepare a presentation fit for TV twice each game,half and full time, and make sensible conversation with a random selection of knackered rugby players quite apart from some of the idiots in the box make Jon Wells OK for me !
richmond wrote:I think to watch a match,analyse it prepare a presentation fit for TV twice each game,half and full time, and make sensible conversation with a random selection of knackered rugby players quite apart from some of the idiots in the box make Jon Wells OK for me !
100% agree - don't understand the anti-Wells bitching on here.
Admittedly some of the segments with players are better than others, and if the player has nothing to say it dies a pretty painful death. But you get more understanding of what is happening from two minutes of those sections than you do in a full season of Stevo's contributions so it has to be an improvement on that.
He is a decent broadcaster and stays clear of the blatant favouritism of his colleagues - he will do for me.
the flying biscuit wrote:he's probably keeping that spot warm for Sam Tomkins anyway. ..so be careful what you all wish for. ....
Sam Tomkins Knows what he's talking about as one of the best players in the game. He's Calm and talks well in front of a camera. Unlike Jon Wells. Sam Tomkins could very much end up our games best pundit when he retires. A bit like Gary Neville.
just_browny wrote:100% agree - don't understand the anti-Wells bitching on here.
Because he hasn't got a clue on what he's rambling on about! He invents plays in his head and then trys to pass them off as a set in stone thing, all whilst there's a player looking at him with an expression that says 'I haven't got a fudging clue what you're going on about...'
Brian Carney asked him a simple question a few weeks back about his 'game breaker' and he genuinely couldn't answer it. He started tapping that screen of his but was selecting the wrong things. he got himself that worked up he just stood there shouting out random buzz words like 'settler', '3 on 2' and 'nominating'. until Carney must have got a message or just used his common sense and moved him onto the next topic.
I wouldn't mind but he was asked a question on something HE HAD BROUGHT UP. He is an absolute buffoon.
The sky team needs a complete clear out and start again. Barry, Terry and at a push Phil Clark (for all his bias) are the only ones who actually talk about the game, say what they see and offer constructive comments. As opposed to Eddie, banging on about how Stevo had a Sunday roast the other day but he didn't like it because he ordered his beef well done and it came back pink.
moving on... wrote:Because he hasn't got a clue on what he's rambling on about! He invents plays in his head and then trys to pass them off as a set in stone thing, all whilst there's a player looking at him with an expression that says 'I haven't got a fudging clue what you're going on about...'
Brian Carney asked him a simple question a few weeks back about his 'game breaker' and he genuinely couldn't answer it. He started tapping that screen of his but was selecting the wrong things. he got himself that worked up he just stood there shouting out random buzz words like 'settler', '3 on 2' and 'nominating'. until Carney must have got a message or just used his common sense and moved him onto the next topic.
I wouldn't mind but he was asked a question on something HE HAD BROUGHT UP. He is an absolute buffoon.
The sky team needs a complete clear out and start again. Barry, Terry and at a push Phil Clark (for all his bias) are the only ones who actually talk about the game, say what they see and offer constructive comments. As opposed to Eddie, banging on about how Stevo had a Sunday roast the other day but he didn't like it because he ordered his beef well done and it came back pink.
Utter shambles.
Sorry laa, but you've just lost all credibility making that statement.
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