Dave K. wrote:Not really its obvious if you have a brain, great potential and deserved his chance, but hasn't taken it and let's himself down with his weight, I'd still sign him up but he ready needs to work hard on his weight.
It's called a balanced view, maybe too hard for you to understand?
Appreciate the insult. It doesn't add any credibility to your point by the way. "Balanced view"?...ok. "Potential" is possibly the most cliched term in sport and is often used to masquerade other failings. He has chosen his lifestyle and thus will end up in the lower leagues before disappearing like many other players with "potential". Thackeray, Bell, Divorty et al.
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spegs wrote:Appreciate the insult. It doesn't add any credibility to your point by the way. "Balanced view"?...ok. "Potential" is possibly the most cliched term in sport and is often used to masquerade other failings. He has chosen his lifestyle and thus will end up in the lower leagues before disappearing like many other players with "potential". Thackeray, Bell, Divorty et al.
You deservef it, as you tried to make me look silly by dragging up an old post, but it didn't work.
You have no credibility on here and you admitted the other week you only post on here to wind people up.
I hope you are wrong on the last few lines (although you could be right) reminds me of Cooke who struggled with his defence in his early career, will have to wait and see what happens, it will be a massive regret in his life if lets himself down.
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Armavinit wrote:This all smacks of the Widnes debacle. The team as a whole were poor, Houghton and Ellis bumped off in tackles, unbelievable, this season but Abdul gets put through the wringer. Maybe I'm wrong but the KID has a huge frame, so has body to suit, if the club thought he was overwieght they would be taking steps. I don't see this happening? I hope the same knee jerk reaction from the management doesn' happen. Where do all these stories about burgers etc. come from. Some so called fans should be ashamed of themselves. George Williams isn't svelt!!!!!!
Some interesting points here. I thought Houghton and Ellis, along with Minichello played with the same intensity they do most weeks. In fact Mini seemed to sense the team needed a lift and did his best to take them with him. The Cas players appeared to be pulling back at the point of contact to have a second effort. This was I presume a deliberate tactic to take advantage of Hull's fatigue after the semi. Abdul on the other hand was clearly outdone by his excess weight and lack of agility. The kid could no doubt be a star but he has to take more care of himself and have a more professional approach to his conditioning. George Williams is a good comparison actually because he is everything that Abdul could and should be and Jake Connor probably will be next year. I think the ball is firmly in Abdul's court. Just my tilt on it of course.
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Darkside Dave wrote:Some interesting points here. I thought Houghton and Ellis, along with Minichello played with the same intensity they do most weeks. In fact Mini seemed to sense the team needed a lift and did his best to take them with him. The Cas players appeared to be pulling back at the point of contact to have a second effort. This was I presume a deliberate tactic to take advantage of Hull's fatigue after the semi. Abdul on the other hand was clearly outdone by his excess weight and lack of agility. The kid could no doubt be a star but he has to take more care of himself and have a more professional approach to his conditioning. George Williams is a good comparison actually because he is everything that Abdul could and should be and Jake Connor probably will be next year. I think the ball is firmly in Abdul's court. Just my tilt on it of course.
I agree about Abdull it's just so frustrating. A kid of his age who's been training full time for a couple of years should not have a physique that. He needs to realise how much talent he's got and that he could go on to be a top class player if he sorts himself out. One thing I will add though is that he seems to cop more criticism than others who played just as poorly like he did against Widnes earlier this season.
He's grossly overweight, and was the same at the beginning of last season. Abdull could be a star, but somethings not right. He's out of contract at the end of the season, and there's hasn't been the slightest hint of what might be happening with him. Maybe the club have a 1 year option in their favour??
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
Armavinit wrote:This all smacks of the Widnes debacle. The team as a whole were poor, Houghton and Ellis bumped off in tackles, unbelievable, this season but Abdul gets put through the wringer. Maybe I'm wrong but the KID has a huge frame, so has body to suit, if the club thought he was overwieght they would be taking steps. I don't see this happening? I hope the same knee jerk reaction from the management doesn' happen. Where do all these stories about burgers etc. come from. Some so called fans should be ashamed of themselves. George Williams isn't svelt!!!!!!
The problem with your argument is Abduls weight is round his belly.He needs to lose the fat belly and possibly a stone in weight and start some speed training as he is too slow. Williams on the other hand is all muscle power plus he has pace.
he cert seems to be our new scrapegoat, watched the 2nd half again and in fairness he didn't do to bad, saying that he really has to knuckle down and shift some timber, shame really because he has all the skills, balls in his court I suppose, next week Hadley surely derserves a spot even if on the bench , hopefully binman fonua and watts back,
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Lose next week i i hate to think what this so called Fans forum will bring ,we lost and the knives get sharpened and a up and coming player gets it firmly in the back ,if you think that if Pryce or the best 6 in the world would have made the slightest difference you are kidding yourself.Look at the stats for our forwards they were shocking to say the least and you expected Abdull to perform behind a well beaten pack.If he looks at this site which most ,if not all players do its done his game no good whatsoever. .Constructive criticism yes down right abuse is not the way decent fans behave .Well over 50 yrs i have supported this Club and never in all that time have i heard such garbage .I hope for Radders sake we win something or his head will be called for along with Pearson..mark my words
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