Problem with old those old grounds like elland road is that they were built for terracing of course and had to have seats retrofitted in after the regulations were brought in after Hillsborough. Going to the four nations final but have heard the seats are similar there as well.

Although they have less character and tend to be built more out of the way, new stadiums are the ones that offer the most comfort and to that end I haven't heard many people suggesting the Olympic, magic would get so much exposure if it was held in London.

Some seats in Anfield are bad, but as far as I know they are refitting the seats in the main stand as part of the work to add another tier, so that might make things better.

I agree that the Olympic Stadium would be worth a go, and the ground has treat transport links. But you'd probably need to do it at the expense of playing an international there, as I don't think the RL fans would go for three London trips in one year.

was talking about this with a mate of mine the other day. I said it would be either France or the Midlands. wouldn't surprise me if it was Ireland though....

Depending how well the Coventry double header for the four nations goes, I could see them giving that a go. Stick with Newcastle next year, then take it somewhere else IMO.

Don't think the leg room was that great where we were sat at St James' still got grazed shins from the seat in front after Shauly and Mini scored

That said I thought Newcastle was good and as others have said it's better for facilities being close by than the Etihad. Liverpool might be another option when they've finished their ground.

You said you were sick of trying to ram RL down the throat of cities that ain't interested... But you suggested Nottingham... and then Manchester.
That doesn't make sense. Why suggest those cities if you're sick of RL being shoved down their throats? I just think so many people needlessly bash expansion without actually thinking about it, and in this case you've done it and immediately contradicted yourself.


It isn't great, but you've made it sound like it was poor because of where it was and that the city of Newcastle doesn't get behind it. It ignores the fact that it was the best ever attended, and that it was better than your other choice, Manchester, who you would apparently think would get a bigger crowd despite having three attempts and none of them topping the lowest effort in Newcastle.

What makes you think they'll get behind it more than Newcastle?


You were though, really. You've said that they should stop ramming RL down cities that ain't interested; that 70,000 is poor and that you wish they'd take it to a city that gets behind it.

It's pretty disparaging of the effort in Newcastle to get the biggest ever Magic Weekend crowds.


If we go by your criteria of not ramming it into cities that ain't interested, and that 70,000 is poor over 2 days, that leaves us with Elland Road which isn't really fit for purpose (and which you'd have to sell out pretty much both days to beat the record).

What I'm basically saying is you haven't thought. If you had, you'd realise that 70,000 is a good attendance for the event and that you'd have to go to a new city to RL in order to beat it.


I'm just fed up of people complaining about events without actually thinking about the reasons they're complaining for. It doesn't help at all. The complaints you've had are completely contradictory to your suggestions of Nottingham and Manchester to boot. I'd worry more about what that makes you sound like before telling me what I sound like. I'm just trying to tell you why it doesn't make sense.

Surely having it somewhere more central makes it more appealing for pretty much everyone no? I didn't go, I honestly couldn't face 10 hours in the car either side of 3 games. If fans from every club had roughly an hour less drive for each journey there and back with say only an hour for some of the Leeds/Wakey/Cas fans and 1.5 hours approx for FC/KR/Saints/Pies/Warry/Widnes then surely that is going to far easier and less costly and as I said far easier for fans in the South to get to.

Or are the majority just bothered about the pish up they can have in places like Newcastle?

I think one of the "benefits" of it being further are that more people will stay over for the full weekend, thus going to both days. If they stay over, it helps the local economy more, and then the tourist board of the area are more likely to shell money out for the event.

If it's local, a lot if fans will likely just go for the day and spend less. There were probably more fans in total at Newcastle and Manchester, but less will have watched both days like in Cardiff and Edinburgh.

What are your thoughts on playing KR every year at magic?

Personally I'dp like to see Fc v Rhinos next year.

Leeds will be off to the big bash in Blackpool!