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It comes to something when tipping a player up is treated more leniently than touching the ref. I agree the latter needs stamping out before it gets out of hand, but seriously?
Agree with Barham and Barnet about the injury having nothing to do with the punishment too. The Boudebza thing was very harsh and there was (to me) a good example of inconsistency in the game on Sunday. Accidental contact as the player slips and gets injured (Taylor) gets a penalty and on report. Virtually identical incident soon after where Yeamo slipped and was hit, but not injured, nothing.
I can understand why the Taylor one was on report, but shouldn't have been a penalty.
Chris28 wrote:It comes to something when tipping a player up is treated more leniently than touching the ref. I agree the latter needs stamping out before it gets out of hand, but seriously?
Agree with Barham and Barnet about the injury having nothing to do with the punishment too. The Boudebza thing was very harsh and there was (to me) a good example of inconsistency in the game on Sunday. Accidental contact as the player slips and gets injured (Taylor) gets a penalty and on report. Virtually identical incident soon after where Yeamo slipped and was hit, but not injured, nothing.
I can understand why the Taylor one was on report, but shouldn't have been a penalty.
Contact with the head is now always a penalty regardless of intent, what tends to happen is if there is an injury the ref has to then do something, if the screen is there he gets another look. I would assume the Yeaman one the ref thought it wasn't contact to the head, can't remember the incident so not sure what happened.
WormInHand wrote:I think there were two attempts to gauge Shaul.
Thie first is Campese shoving Albert Belly out of the way then reaching at arms length in a swiping downward motion across the face. That's actully the bottom photo here, and is at 18.59 in the Sky footage. Couple of seconds later it is actually Lunt who has the second go. That is Lunt's hand you can see in the top two photos, and you clearly see Shaul flinch backwards and duck downwards as he feels the fingers near his eyes.19.04 on the footage.
Well, we have a right couple of new charmers in the Rovers team this season, don't we? Campese and Lunt - CLunt. Reminds me of that old pantomime villain CLint Newton but this pair are properly nasty.
Funniest moment of the match for me? Campese protesting to the touchie after Naughton's try. It was right in front of us as we were down the side in the corner. He ran after the touchjudge, was ignored, took out his lime green gumshield and threw it on the floor. An actual real live and almost literal dummy spit. He stared at it on the ground and I actually thought he was going to jump up and down on it in a tantrum. Comedy gold, barely 2 minutes after the spiteful scrap.
Petulant type, then.
I've seen quotes referencing what a great leader Cramp-easy is and what a great influence he has on the Rovers team. In fact, I think some of those quotes came from Jamie Peacock (who was a truly great on-field leader).
Having watched his petulant, niggly performance this weekend, I think Ellis showed anyone watching what a true leader is. No petulance, no tantrums, no niggle, just focused, direct aggression, leading from the front and taking his team with him. To me, Taylor's influence is sometimes underestimated in this regard, I think he also possesses those qualities, but from a squad perspective the team fed off Ellis' lead and that, alongside the reintroduction of Mini, Taylor and a game changing cameo from Carlos, won us the game.
Campese is clearly a top drawer player, I am genuinely glad to see him back on the field after all of his injury troubles, but I thought he led his team poorly on Sunday.
As for Lunt, simply no class at all. Decent player, no doubt, but I've no time for him whatsoever.
Mars wrote:I've seen quotes referencing what a great leader Cramp-easy is and what a great influence he has on the Rovers team. In fact, I think some of those quotes came from Jamie Peacock (who was a truly great on-field leader).
Having watched his petulant, niggly performance this weekend, I think Ellis showed anyone watching what a true leader is. No petulance, no tantrums, no niggle, just focused, direct aggression, leading from the front and taking his team with him. To me, Taylor's influence is sometimes underestimated in this regard, I think he also possesses those qualities, but from a squad perspective the team fed off Ellis' lead and that, alongside the reintroduction of Mini, Taylor and a game changing cameo from Carlos, won us the game.
Campese is clearly a top drawer player, I am genuinely glad to see him back on the field after all of his injury troubles, but I thought he led his team poorly on Sunday.
As for Lunt, simply no class at all. Decent player, no doubt, but I've no time for him whatsoever.
Mars wrote:I've seen quotes referencing what a great leader Cramp-easy is and what a great influence he has on the Rovers team. In fact, I think some of those quotes came from Jamie Peacock (who was a truly great on-field leader).
Having watched his petulant, niggly performance this weekend, I think Ellis showed anyone watching what a true leader is. No petulance, no tantrums, no niggle, just focused, direct aggression, leading from the front and taking his team with him. To me, Taylor's influence is sometimes underestimated in this regard, I think he also possesses those qualities, but from a squad perspective the team fed off Ellis' lead and that, alongside the reintroduction of Mini, Taylor and a game changing cameo from Carlos, won us the game.
Campese is clearly a top drawer player, I am genuinely glad to see him back on the field after all of his injury troubles, but I thought he led his team poorly on Sunday.
As for Lunt, simply no class at all. Decent player, no doubt, but I've no time for him whatsoever.
Mars wrote:I've seen quotes referencing what a great leader Cramp-easy is and what a great influence he has on the Rovers team. In fact, I think some of those quotes came from Jamie Peacock (who was a truly great on-field leader).
Having watched his petulant, niggly performance this weekend, I think Ellis showed anyone watching what a true leader is. No petulance, no tantrums, no niggle, just focused, direct aggression, leading from the front and taking his team with him. To me, Taylor's influence is sometimes underestimated in this regard, I think he also possesses those qualities, but from a squad perspective the team fed off Ellis' lead and that, alongside the reintroduction of Mini, Taylor and a game changing cameo from Carlos, won us the game.
Campese is clearly a top drawer player, I am genuinely glad to see him back on the field after all of his injury troubles, but I thought he led his team poorly on Sunday.
As for Lunt, simply no class at all. Decent player, no doubt, but I've no time for him whatsoever.
Great post. In particular I like your comment about Taylor's influence that's gone under the radar. Before he signed for us I knew he was a good player but I underestimated just how good he is on and off the field.
Taylor's like a bulldozer. if ellis can stay fit and we finish the season well he must be in with a shout for MOS. Must be well respected by every player at every club in the game. if a grub like hardaker can win it then it would be fitting for a player of ellis' integrity and standing in the game to win it
On Taylor, something I noticed from watching the game again, after the biff in the first half, he was called out by the ref. He listened to what was said and replied "OK" before heading back to the line and getting on with it.
Contrast that with Blair moaning, like his brother Lionel had lost Give us a Clue, over the same incident and Campo's constant whinging.
Class stuff
Faithful One wrote:Was this as a repayment by Lunt for not sending him off?
On Taylor, something I noticed from watching the game again, after the biff in the first half, he was called out by the ref. He listened to what was said and replied "OK" before heading back to the line and getting on with it.
Contrast that with Blair moaning, like his brother Lionel had lost Give us a Clue, over the same incident and Campo's constant whinging.
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