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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:49 pm 
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Thompson can replace him this week, glad he is going to be back for Wigan away much tougher game, the physical side anyway & Ellis will be fresh for the tough encounter.

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:05 pm 
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Like wise, the courts ain't fit for purpose. I was actually agreeing with kosh by the way

I did realise that, I just failed to punctuate my reply properly.
I thought I'd highlighted the first part of your post, and the first part of mine was my comment on it.

The second part of my post was my opinion on the Ellis EGP.
Apologies for the misunderstanding.

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:19 pm 
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Really can't understand all the debate on this one . Ellis was guilty of recklessly striking Simone in the head. Note , not deliberately but recklessly

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:37 pm 
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easthull fc fan wrote:Thompson can replace him this week, glad he is going to be back for Wigan away much tougher game, the physical side anyway & Ellis will be fresh for the tough encounter.


did you forget the cup game at Saints before Wigan?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:44 pm 
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bonaire wrote:did you forget the cup game at Saints before Wigan?


Yeah I did pal, hope we have a good cup run its the monkey I would love us to get off our back!

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:44 pm 
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wotsupcas wrote:Really can't understand all the debate on this one . Ellis was guilty of recklessly striking Simone in the head. Note , not deliberately but recklessly

Well you're wrong on the reckless for starters. How is it reckless or even careless for that matter that in the normal action of restricting a player from offloading the ball and/or tackling that due to the sudden and unpredictable movement of the attacking player minimal contact with the bicep/upper arm occurs that would not have occured if the attacking player had remained in the same position at the beginning of the motion that was shown.
To expect Ellis (or any other player) to mid motion react to the attacking players change in body position beyond the bounds of a human beings synaptic responses never mind the additional time of the motor action of physically moving the part of the body in line with avoiding contact to the head is both ludicrous and unfair.
As I stated earlier, Stewart from Catalans 'deliberately' lifts a players leg leaving them in a vulnerable position one that we know can lead to life changing injuries. And yet the panel decides that that was by far a lesser offence because the tackled player was lucky enough to land ok and Stewart received a caution on 'technique'
Debate/discuss why?

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let's not kid ourselves, he's a big loss for the catalans game. someone will have to step their game up to take on their pack






The referee's indecision is final

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:26 pm 
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Just seen chester's post match comments on the SL show. Acted like a complete dick






The poor man's bonaire

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:08 pm 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Well you're wrong on the reckless for starters. How is it reckless or even careless for that matter that in the normal action of restricting a player from offloading the ball and/or tackling that due to the sudden and unpredictable movement of the attacking player minimal contact with the bicep/upper arm occurs that would not have occured if the attacking player had remained in the same position at the beginning of the motion that was shown.
To expect Ellis (or any other player) to mid motion react to the attacking players change in body position beyond the bounds of a human beings synaptic responses never mind the additional time of the motor action of physically moving the part of the body in line with avoiding contact to the head is both ludicrous and unfair.
As I stated earlier, Stewart from Catalans 'deliberately' lifts a players leg leaving them in a vulnerable position one that we know can lead to life changing injuries. And yet the panel decides that that was by far a le offence because the tackled player was lucky enough to land ok and Stewart received a caution on 'technique'
Debate/discuss why?


It is actually careless.
Knowing what the possible outcome of your actions could be and still doing it regardless makes it careless even though your sole intention was not the direct result that occurred.

Let's not go down this mythical he was trying to prevent an off load excuse either.
He was swinging in with a straight arm at pace which is not how you prevent an off load.
Ellis was going for the big shot and unfortunately mistimed it. Not intentional, just careless.
We as Hull fans get so defensive when anyone dares to criticise our club or players on here.
Some of the debate/argument is quite ridiculous and purile at times.
Ellis himself in the HDM alludes to such when he states he plays close to the line.
Gutted he is missing Friday but we would expect the same had the boot been on the other foot.

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Jake the Peg wrote:Just seen chester's post match comments on the SL show. Acted like a complete dick

Who did, you or Chester?

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