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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:06 pm 
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Sal Paradise wrote:I am amazed GH hasn't managed to convince the other CEO's to bring the cap down - I genuinely believe that is what he wants, he certainly wanted it a few years ago.

If the salaries of the senior managers were also included in the cap I guarantee the cap would not have remained at the same level for 10+ years

The salary cap is reduced every year. I would bet a decent wedge Gary Hetherington's and Nigel Wood's salaries have both increased from 1998.

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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:33 pm 
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Sal Paradise wrote:Morrisons are allowed to pay whatever they deem appropriate - they are not constricted by an over all cap on salaries so if they want to pay the CEO £4m a year no other member of staff's wages have to be compromised to allow that to happen. Of course you were being facetious for the sake of it. If Leeds wanted to sign Jonathan Thurston then a serious re-jigging of the squad would be required to financially accomodate him


Not convinced this analagy is working.

Who would be the Leeds RL equivalent of the Morrison's CEO? Is their remuneration package restricted by the imposition of the SL salary cap?

I wasn't aware that it was.

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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:58 pm 
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tvoc wrote:Not convinced this analagy is working.

Who would be the Leeds RL equivalent of the Morrison's CEO? Is their remuneration package restricted by the imposition of the SL salary cap?

I wasn't aware that it was.


Thurston would the highest earner at the club a bit like the CEO at Morrisons - he is the star performer, you would hope your CEO is likewise.

However to include Thurston Leeds would have to ditch half the squad to accomodate him due to him earning approx half the cap - Morrisons don't have to ditch half the board to accomodate a new CEO because they can only spend £6m on directors. They are free to go out and hire anyone they want without it impacting either the financial or employment status of anyone else

Simple really






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:06 pm 
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Sal Paradise wrote:Thurston would the highest earner at the club a bit like the CEO at Morrisons - he is the star performer, you would hope your CEO is likewise.

However to include Thurston Leeds would have to ditch half the squad to accomodate him due to him earning approx half the cap - Morrisons don't have to ditch half the board to accomodate a new CEO because they can only spend £6m on directors. They are free to go out and hire anyone they want without it impacting either the financial or employment status of anyone else

Simple really


That simple that we might have been playing in a league of about 6 professional clubs by the time the rest had all gone bump.

(Although I have to say the SC should have been incrementally lifted each year &/or tied to T/O)

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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:09 pm 
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son of headingley wrote:That simple that we might have been playing in a league of about 6 professional clubs by the time the rest had all gone bump.

(Although I have to say the SC should have been incrementally lifted each year &/or tied to T/O)


Maybe we need to reduce the number of full time clubs to 10 sustainable clubs with a realistic salary cap.






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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:12 pm 
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DHM wrote:Central Park used to be a rugby league ground, now it's something else.


JJB shares it grounds with a supermarket - perhaps its a Wigan thing?






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Sal Paradise wrote:Thurston would the highest earner at the club a bit like the CEO at Morrisons - he is the star performer, you would hope your CEO is likewise.

However to include Thurston Leeds would have to ditch half the squad to accomodate him due to him earning approx half the cap - Morrisons don't have to ditch half the board to accomodate a new CEO because they can only spend £6m on directors. They are free to go out and hire anyone they want without it impacting either the financial or employment status of anyone else

Simple really


Morrisons have a turnover of roughly £16 billion. Once you realise the numbers involved your comparison starts to look flawed at best.
Try comparing with a company of similar size and turnover and all of a sudden salaries become a major issue. Every position at my company has a salary range when we are recruiting and finance put strict limits on salaries compared to turnover. If we don't have the money we don't hire the people. A private company like ourselves has to live within its means. Sure, it's taken us longer to do some things but a lot of the companies we have encountered as competitors and customers over the last 20 years of our existence have gone bust or faced savage job cuts before being bought and stripped out.
Sport isn't like business, it's emotional and it's entertainment. When you combine those factors people go bonkers.
It may just be the simple truth that the "Market" for rugby league in this country simply cannot support significantly higher salaries for players. The problem with sport is that supporters and even club chairmen desire victories on the pitch. Real industries measure success by revenue, sports clubs measure success by winning games. That's why so many sporting organisations end up in the $h1te.






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:47 pm 
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I have always had suspicions of the structure of the cap. I would think it lends itself to some creative accountancy. Payment to third parties perhaps?.

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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:25 pm 
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Backwoodsman wrote:I have always had suspicions of the structure of the cap. I would think it lends itself to some creative accountancy. Payment to third parties perhaps?.


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