Gotcha wrote:I think he has lost the dressing room, but not to the extent said above, otherwise I agree here that GH would have binned him already. Instead he is evaluating options, which tells me Hetherington doesn't see it has bad as people have mentioned.
Possibly. The contract situation with Mac is strange, to say the least. How much would it cost to pay off a man with 'a job for life'
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Stevosfalseteeth wrote:Possibly. The contract situation with Mac is strange, to say the least. How much would it cost to pay off a man with 'a job for life'
If he's on a rolling contract, whatever his notice period stipulates.
In other words, probably not very much.
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Sal Paradise wrote:Or his intended target isn't available until next season?
Yep, hence the evaluating options, rather than just acting now. I do think the dressing room is getting worse though. A loss this week, and just can't see him how something isn't going to change.
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Stevosfalseteeth wrote:If he'd lost the dressing room, GH would have binned him by now.
I agree with regards to last years claim. He may have lost the dressing room in this pre-season or during the 2016 season, but the idea that about 90% of the squad didn't like him in 2015 seems far fetched because I simply don't believe they'd have won a treble (and completely overhaul their attacking style in the process) if their were THAT many guys who didn't get along with him.
I think also GH would've acted and announced a change of coach for this year (like Powell/Smith & McClennen/McDermott) if basically the whole squad didn't get on with him and the only two that really did were about to retire. Also quite a few players especially the youngsters have signed new deals in the last 18 months, not exactly the behaviour of guys who couldn't stand the coach of the club.
I've never seen or heard anything from McDermott or certain players such as JJB, Leuluai, Ablett or Delaney to suggest they have a bad relationship with one another, if anything his relationship with JJB seems even better than the ones he had with Sinfield and Peacock. Realistically it's probably more like half the squad at most who might not have gotten on with him and whoever has spread the story has exaggerated, you can kind of guess who, the younger ones and fringe players who hardly got picked or got off the bench when picked.
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I have no idea how many players get on or otherwise with McD, however some may need to be careful what they wish for. Let's pretend leeds get geoff toovey in. On current form I think he would be into see gh inside 2 weeks with 2 lists. Here's the ones I want to keep. And here's the 10 to 15 you can get rid of.
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Gotcha wrote:I think he has lost the dressing room, but not to the extent said above, otherwise I agree here that GH would have binned him already. Instead he is evaluating options, which tells me Hetherington doesn't see it has bad as people have mentioned.
I was told that in the week before the Hull KR game at the end of a session the coach invited the players to get things off their chests with any gripes they might have.
Allegedly our man of steel said that the players on the right hand side would like permission during the following game to bring picnic baskets onto the pitch as the diminutive scrum half come bench hooker could only pass left.
The said player that accepted the coaches invitation to speak his mind spent the following game playing on the right wing.
If any of the above is true it's all rather worrying.
Quote:Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.
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G1 wrote:I was told that in the week before the Hull KR game at the end of a session the coach invited the players to get things off their chests with any gripes they might have.
Allegedly our man of steel said that the players on the right hand side would like permission during the following game to bring picnic baskets onto the pitch as the diminutive scrum half come bench hooker could only pass left.
The said player that accepted the coaches invitation to speak his mind spent the following game playing on the right wing.
If any of the above is true it's all rather worrying.
The irony of Hardaker complaining about others passing the ball.
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ThePrinter wrote:The irony of Hardaker complaining about others passing the ball.
too true. Hardaker does not pass either left or right and constantly dies with the ball and this season has been one of our worst defenders and seems incapable of matching our defensive numbers against the opposition's attack. He is lucky to get a gig on the wing.
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