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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:57 pm 
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craigizzard wrote:Bob Morris was a short blond hooker and Peter Smith a dark haired prop. Both were really poor, signed by I think Peter Fox and neither of them played more than a dozen games for us, though tvoc can confirm.


Peter Fox was indeed the coach although IIRC when asked what possessed him at a fan's social event he divulged that Morris and Smith were signed without his knowledge. I'll have a look tomorrow for their appearance records with Leeds, although your memory would match mine, I think Smith was cut from the squad and didn't see the season out.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:01 pm 
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Mark Laurie wrote:Arghhh, my hives are back, mentioning all 3 in one sentence is too much.


Why what have I ever done to you? Unless you mean Fox, Morris and Smith in which case as you were.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:03 pm 
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I am interested what you think the issues are William.

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Those names bring back some great memories. Marty Gurr was on the pitch receiving his heritage number at the Wakefield game. He looked as if he has aged very well. Hope he didn't travel over from Aus specifically for that, i felt short changed making a 30 miles round trip!






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Although I was in a minority i felt slightly sorry for Peter Fox. IIRC He had the job of rebuilding team spirit and reintograting the English players the season after the influx of all the Aussies under Bamford. He was also a bad refereeing decision away from taking us back to Wembley.






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Backwoodsman wrote:You are correct . The main complaint from leeds fans was his style of rugby was always forward orientated.
By and large the Leeds style of play was more biased to open rugby.


By the time Fox arrived at Leeds, the game was moving past his coaching methods, however he did not have much to work with. Sure he would have won trophies if had arrived much earlier in his career.

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tvoc wrote:Peter Fox was indeed the coach although IIRC when asked what possessed him at a fan's social event he divulged that Morris and Smith were signed without his knowledge. I'll have a look tomorrow for their appearance records with Leeds, although your memory would match mine, I think Smith was cut from the squad and didn't see the season out.

Peter Smith was released after less than a handful of games IIRC. My guess is 3 appearances. Morris played more and wasn't as poor as many made him out to be. I think you're correct on who was responsible for signing those two as well. It wasn't Fox.

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tvoc wrote:Peter Fox was indeed the coach although IIRC when asked what possessed him at a fan's social event he divulged that Morris and Smith were signed without his knowledge. I'll have a look tomorrow for their appearance records with Leeds, although your memory would match mine, I think Smith was cut from the squad and didn't see the season out.


From memory smith got nowhere near the end of season, Leeds paid him off. I never met him but a guy I knew years ago said he was a life and soul, likeable guy and bought the pub a round the night Leeds gave him a wedge to return to aus.

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The Magic Rat wrote:Although I was in a minority i felt slightly sorry for Peter Fox. IIRC He had the job of rebuilding team spirit and reintograting the English players the season after the influx of all the Aussies under Bamford. He was also a bad refereeing decision away from taking us back to Wembley.

I'm in the same sympathy group as you. Fox had to deal with the fallout and crap left behind mainly by Bamford, but also by Clift. I've often wondered why the Leeds board recruited Fox when they weren't ever prepared to back him with cash. His only big money signing was Carl Gibson and I recall reading somewhere that even on that occasion, Fox had to beg the board for the £50k fee.

Very disappointing IMO that immediately after Fox was sacked, loads of cash was made available again for profligate signings. If any coach was overrated and utterly crap, it was the Lech Walesa lookalike.

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Thread drift here. Following william's comments on McDermott press conference. Have just had a listen and thought he spoke very well, albeit the inference was top 4 is only possible with an immediate return to form which seems highly unlikely. if we end up 8th after 23 rounds but miles behind top 4, wonder if club will try and use it as a kind of 2017 pre-season as Warrington did last year. feels like a lot of decisions to make towards back end of year. I thought this would be last time round for jjb, but he is a remarkable athlete and his effort over Easter period was outstanding. Fingers crossed he can avoid any more long term injuries and worth another year for mine.

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