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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:24 pm 
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I suppose many of you will have heard about tennis player Sharapova accidentally(sic) failing a drugs test.

Well I decided to look into what she has been taking all these years.

https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/2016/03/03/what-is-melodoniummildronate/

Now the interesting thing about this matter is the excellent public relations exercise that she is engaged in trying to obtain sympathy, and I may say succeeding amongst a great deal of the general population. Most of whom wont bother to look into what she took and why it was banned.

It was also refreshing to see ex Tennis professional and commentator Andrew Castle pointing out the astonishing fact that her management apparently didn't bother to read up on the wada banned substance list.
I suppose many of you will have heard about tennis player Sharapova accidentally(sic) failing a drugs test.

Well I decided to look into what she has been taking all these years.

https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/2016/03/03/what-is-melodoniummildronate/

Now the interesting thing about this matter is the excellent public relations exercise that she is engaged in trying to obtain sympathy, and I may say succeeding amongst a great deal of the general population. Most of whom wont bother to look into what she took and why it was banned.

It was also refreshing to see ex Tennis professional and commentator Andrew Castle pointing out the astonishing fact that her management apparently didn't bother to read up on the wada banned substance list.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:23 am 
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I don't know what Sharapova was taking but I know what I'd give her

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It highlights a fact that I came around to agreeing with following the Lance Armstrong affair. Rather than being opposed to drug cheats the truth is sport actively condones them. But only on the proviso that they don't get caught - in which case they are buried.

One of the big questions which was left completely untouched in the wake of Armstrong was - how much did his business partners know? Likewise, how much did the Lance Armstrong charity know?

I certainly didn't buy that fawning propaganda piece by Alex Gibney (who never saw a corporate dollar he didn't like).

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She will have people solely employed to advise on diet and nutrition, you'd think at least one of 'team' Sharapova would have been keeping an eye on the banned substances list.

Personally I think it will be rife in most sports, it's just a game of Russian roulette as to whether you get tested or caught.






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Quote:...but had known the drug as mildronate.

"A few days ago, after I received a letter from the ITF, I found out it also has another name of meldonium, which I did not know,"


Define "found out"! If as a pro athlete whose profession depends on steering clear of banned substances, you get an updated 'banned' list, it seems astonishingly blase to claim you didn't twig. It's not as if everyone isn't aware that drugs have a generic as well as brand name, is it?

Apart from that, those advising her must have known she was on this drug, so they must have curiously missed the point too.

But if you aren't interested enough to find out when WADA send you a new banned substances list, then its not exactly the sort of thing you casually "find out"; how did she find out? Happening to read an article about mildronate whilst extremely bored?

Quote:"She added that Wada had sent her an email on 22 December informing her of changes to the banned list, but she had failed to "click" on the link that would have detailed the prohibited items."

Leaving aside the improbability that her advisers also failed to realise AND failed to 'click on the link' as well, (what do they actually do, then?) I find it almost beyond belief that she would get such a fundamentally vital email yet "fail to click on the link" or give it to someone in her team to click on the link for her.

If her account is true then she deserves the same ban as taking it deliberately, as she clearly didn't care whether the pills she was popping were legal or not, having better things to occupy her time than clicking on some boring link of detailed banned substances.






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King Street Cat wrote:...Agree she will have a team of coaches/conditioners/nutritionists etc all of whom will be fully on top of what is banned


Personally I think it will be rife in most sports, it's just a game of Russian roulette as to whether you get tested or caught.[/quote]

Agree she will have a team of coaches/conditioners/nutritionists etc all of whom will be fully on top of what is banned and what isn't even if she isn't ontop of it (even though she should be). If she were a "mid-table" tennis player then I might have some sympathy with her but someone at the very top of tennis has the resources to ensure that 100% of the time they're not using something they shouldn't. Has to be a huge ban or it makes a mockery of the sport.

As for it being rife, I think it probably is in certain circumstances. I think it depends on what the potential rewards are for doing it. It probably lends itself more to individual rather than team sports. For instance there's nowhere near the same incentive for an individual player at, say, Widnes to be taking something because the potential reward isn't really worth it vs the risk of getting caught. But obviously in something like tennis, with millions of pounds up for grabs each year, there's a much bigger incentive.

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Agree she will have a team of coaches/conditioners/nutritionists etc all of whom will be fully on top of what is banned and what isn't ...


You'd think she'd have at least one pro to handle that side of things, not sure about a "team", but then if I think about it, I must say it is very odd if an athlete takes a banned substance, when they know (a) it's now banned and (b) it will certainly show up in their next test.

That's the bit that suggests monumental cockup rather than attempt to cheat, to me. Unless being tested was unlikely, but I thought they all had to provide samples.






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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:You'd think she'd have at least one pro to handle that side of things, not sure about a "team"


We're talking about professional Tennis at the pinnacle here, no way will it be one person's job. There will be at least 4 or 5 people employed; coach, manager/agent, doctor/physio, psychologist, dietician/nutritionalist. They won't be working for peanuts either, one report suggests a wage figure of around one million dollars.






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Pro athletes have doping information consistently forced upon them. It's so high profile that it simply isn't an excuse to say 'I didn't know.' I don't believe for one moment that such a high profile athlete with multiple hangers-on, medical team, personal Doctors, PR and general staff would just take any medication without high profile consultation on the subject.

She's been caught, and now trying to damage control everything.






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She has been the highest paid female athlete for the last 11 yrs. and is estimated to be worth $200 million.

Her Nike sponsorship is reputed to be $70 million in total and her losses per year, if banned, are reportedly $30 million per year.

She is a veritable cash cow, pardon the pun, and you would have thought it would be in someone's interest to look after her.






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