think logan will start but always handy to have plan b if he doesn't perform, atm he deserves to start and have a spell in the team

Got to be 6th minimum, big frank
Looks the business, impressed with
The rest of the signings but will keep everything crossed, 2 wins in the next 2 games are crucial

Would like to see us win a minimum of 50% of our games (i.e. 15 wins from 30). That would probably leave us around 6th in the league. Would also hope to win two or three games post split to at least be in contention for a top four spot.

Based on last year's table, in order to finish fourth we will have to win an extra seven games. For a team who only won twelve league games in 2015, that's a sizable hike in form, one I suspect is too big to achieve in one leap.

I'm still not convinced that we have enough creativity behind the big pack to be serious contenders and, as such, I'm with most people on here in thinking that 6th is a realistic indicator of where we are right now.

What most of us on here want to see is evidence that we are moving in the right direction, both in terms of results and performance, with improvements in all areas. We're not going to know the answer to this until the season is well underway.

The one thing we can be sure of, is that no matter what the next 7 months may bring, this board will be as lively and argumentative as it always is, and I doubt we would want it any other way .

The extra 7 games you talk of was the total table including super8s
We know we had little to play for and purposefully went about blooding the kids
Prior to the split we'd only needed 3more wins to hit 4th. If you can be around there pre split then anything can happen from there!

So how long until the Radford out stuff starts again when your not exceeding most of your fans expectations?

Around the time hudds bottle it again when the pressure ramps up probably

Silverware is a successful season...

This squad is definitely capable of a top 6 finish. This would be a reasonable improvement on last season and anything less than that would be unacceptable in my opinion (and probably in the owner's opinion too).

The cup is a lottery where anything can happen so we shouldn't set any targets there.

What I would really like to see is us playing entertaining rugby, competing with (and ideally beating) the likes of Wigan and Leeds and not slipping up against the weaker teams, especially at home.

The majority of our fans have said they expect us to finish 6th. I imagine we'll be equally as narked as your handful of fans will be if you don't manage to finish 6th or above.

Our home form simply has to improve. Five wins from fourteen last season was terrible. Just two wins from ten against the rest of the top eight.

Away from home we won six from fifteen (not including Magic weekend). That was as good as Cas and Warrington and much better than Catalans.