ComeOnYouUll wrote:It's pathetic that people try to use this as an intercity pissing contest.
Pathetic is drink driving. It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver. It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug. Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem. Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.
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Burtons Forearm wrote:Pathetic is drink driving. It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver. It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug. Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem. Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.
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Burtons Forearm wrote:Pathetic is drink driving. It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver. It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug. Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem. Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.
I don't disagree with you about drink driving either but before you suggest excessive drinking is solely a Hull FC problem you should have a word with Maurice Blair about the effects the mind altering chemical had on his behaviour last Saturday night.
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Burtons Forearm wrote:Pathetic is drink driving. It kills hundreds of people a year. I know people who have died because of it and a good friend permanently seriously injured by a drunk driver. It's done by narcissistic morons who think they can drive having drunk a mind altering chemical....a drug....a depressant drug. Your club has a serious problem with it. You have a player almost every season done for it. It's a serious f#cking problem. Your serial offenders and your club, led by your chairman should do something public about it not wish the latest offender happy birthday on the day of his conviction.
I know this is you I'm replying to but don't be ridiculous.
whilst DD is a disgracefully selfish act sacking him isn't so easy an option as people might think especially given it's away from his 'workplace' and in his own time. Of course it could be classed as bringing the club into disrepute but might not in itself automatically be classed as gross misconduct with grounds for summary dismissal. Drink related misdemeanours can be specified in a contract of employment enough that are grounds for such but I doubt the club would have that in players contracts. Given the incidences of players getting tanked up and stepping out of line (in whatever way that manifests itself) within RL circles and the bad impression/socially irresponsible behaviour that portrays especially with regard to children following the club/player involved maybe it's time clubs took a hard line and state drink related offences that end up with criminal proceedings (& found guilty) ARE gross misconduct and subject to summary dismissal after accruing all the facts and following proper procedure.
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:I know this is you I'm replying to but don't be ridiculous.
Ridiculous? How do measure the problem then. If an organisation has 30 employees (players) and one is CONVICTED in court almost yearly for the past five plus years then is that serious.....if not could you explain at what stage does it become serious. Don't let your blind support affect your morals will you.....
knockersbumpMKII wrote:whilst DD is a disgracefully selfish act sacking him isn't so easy an option as people might think especially given it's away from his 'workplace' and in his own time. Of course it could be classed as bringing the club into disrepute but might not in itself automatically be classed as gross misconduct with grounds for summary dismissal. Of course drink related misdemeanours can be specified in a contract of employment enough that are grounds for such but I doubt the club would have that in players contracts. Given the incidences of players getting tanked up and stepping out of line (in whatever way that manifests itself) within RL circles and the bad impression/socially irresponsible behaviour that portrays especially with regard to children following the club/player involved maybe it's time clubs took a hard line and state drink related offences that end up with criminal proceedings (& found guilty) ARE gross misconduct and subject to summary dismissal after accruing all the facts and following proper procedure.
I agree wholly. However in the case of Bowden etc they have all been in court and found guilty so employers can discipline them. I wouldn't necessarily promote sacking but some level of discipline is required not deafening silence.
Diogenes wrote:I don't disagree with you about drink driving either but before you suggest excessive drinking is solely a Hull FC problem you should have a word with Maurice Blair about the effects the mind altering chemical had on his behaviour last Saturday night.
Oh dear. Has he been in court and are you comparing getting drunk to getting drunk and driving a car? I think you've missed the point.
Burtons Forearm wrote:Ridiculous? How do measure the problem then. If an organisation has 30 employees (players) and one is CONVICTED in court almost yearly for the past five plus years then is that serious.....if not could you explain at what stage does it become serious. Don't let your blind support affect your morals will you.....
If you think Scott Taylor's second season at Wigan was injury ridden and he was shipped out to Leigh, then you are an idiot. If you think Hull FC have a "serious problem" with players drink driving then you are an idiot. Please list the last half dozen Hull FC players convicted of drink driving.
You are using this as a point scoring exercise against Hull which makes you a pathetic troll.
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