Wire' I'm not interested in putting anyone into "camps", I don't feel superior to anyone in any way shape or form.

Mickey, the discussion, as ever is going nowhere which is why I said "do we have to hash it up again".

I don't think Fev', Salford, Wakey, Widnes and Hull should have been relegated in '95 or Donnie should have been "double relegatted" to make space for an ersatz franchise in PSG or a club (ourselves) who hadn't earned the right to promotion. This is just a personal view, and it's in the past. Lets look to the future guys and stop jumping on anyone who'se view isn't our own.

Not jumping on anyone who has differing views at all just having a discussion, what happened in 95 can't be undone though.
As for us not earning the right to be promoted that's as may be, but we actually held our own in that comp for a fair few years, so it was the failure comment that I was interested in.
From my point of view we are a long way from where we have been, is it back to square one? Maybe, but clubs in the past have declined and some have successfully re built, examples being KR widnes and Leigh again will be contenders this year, they have slowly really built.
The ground we are at, far from ideal, but to be honest in my mind suitable for where we are as a club at the moment.should we do well this season and get in middle 8 then who knows! I think a home game in million pound game would present some interesting challenges, but we ain't there yet.
Oldham then Swinton as season openers first hurdles to get over

What will the feeling be like around the club if we have no points after them 2 games LOL

Trying to look at the glass half full then might be a bit of a strain

It's a dry January, glass is completely empty

Borderline suicidal?

We will be gutted, but we will look for positives and hope for the best in game 3!!!

As we have always done.

What if we win both. We will think we can win the million pound game, wont we?

Come on the glass will be fuller than that we will be looking at finishing third in middle 8s and fretting about suitability of the ground for 2017 In super league

I would absolutely LOVE to fret and worry about where our 2017 SL fixtures will be played, I'd be delighted to spend ALL 2016 in a frenzied panic at our dilema!!!!!