A charming way with words ... I tried.

I initially posted a lengthy response but in view of your statement that your are terminally ill I have thought better f it.


You are being knowingly disingenous and frankly I'm disgusted. Obviously you made a comment about having an illness on the thread to which you refer, to which I responded. Obviously at that time, I "knew" you had mentioned having an illness, for the thirty seconds it took to consider the post. All you said, having gone back to look was:

That's it. That is all you said.

But
1. When I made the recent remark, NO I DID NOT KNOW that the person I was replying to had " a terminal ailment". I had not "forgotten", I'd never had any reason at that time to remember either you or your comment in the first place. My memory's not bad, but I have over 25,000 posts and they may have generated 100K+ replies. You think I can recite them all?

Ignoring that, my remark was very clearly intended to refer to your brain's apparent inability to spark up and think about the blindingly obvious stuff people keep telling you. I know little about MND, but know enough to point out that it rarely affects the thinking function which you of course would know better than anyone on here. So what's bad about your tactic is that even as you typed your slur, you knew you were falsely accusing me, because my post couldn't therefore possibly have been a reference to MND on any view whatsoever and shame on you for suggesting it was.

And now this has been dragged into the depths I think the thread has run its course, for me anyway.

Look at you bullshitting and back tracking again here's the full conversation. You just help yourself can't stop poking that stick can you. Quote:FLAT STANLEY. Over twelve months on from this remarkable breakthrough and can anybody truthfully say they've heard anything else on the matter ? I certainly haven't because i search frequently on matters like this being a MND sufferer. See this is the problem, when breakthroughs like this happens it takes years to decades to become " introduced into the fraternity". I mean why aren't they throwing people who NEED this treatment on the surgeons table NOW. It's scandalous to think there's a cure out there for people with spinal ailments and diseases and yet the poor old unlucky sufferer's have got to wait forever and a day to get the treatment. It's all down to MONEY surrounded by a mile of red tape i'd presume. The NHS can't wait to shout from the roof tops regarding " A CURE " if only they'd be that enthused about getting you on that surgeons table People like myself with a spinal disease haven't got decades to wait. Quote:Ferocious Aardvaark. Because of course they simply can't and don't "throw people on the operating table", there's a extremely lengthy and detailed process to go through before any new treatment, drug or whatever can be approved for general use. I can easily see how frustrating that is for people who need help now, but there's a reason. Perhaps the best present hope would be for people to get accepted as guinea pigs for research. The chap concerned was on the pitch at an Arsenal match in February this year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31085042 Quote: FLAT STANLEY I'm not being funny but don't preach to me about "lengthy process's" I could write a book on it. They really shouldn't be shouting from the roof tops and giving sufferers false hope. Its simply saying weve got a cure for your disease but unfortunately we can't give it you yet. It bloody stinks. I know a lot more than you about"The Process's of trials. MND trials in my experience are quite scarce with a list as long as your arm in which you get catagorized to qualify in this country. I know sufferer's like myself fundraised to travel to mainland Europe America to try new treatments to FIGHT this disease because this country's NHS system is diabolical. You here people all the time with all types of illness's flying all over the world to find treatment because this country's nhs has failed them and left them with no alternative. I'm not saying DR's and Nurses have failed me but "The whole System has failed my experience miserably. Quote:Ferocious Aardvaark Clearly you have a very personal interest and I was neither 'preaching' nor intending to argue with you, though you have no idea what I know. I do think your comment is a bit unfair on the scientists who published their research as is the norm, but it was jumped on by the media. That's not their fault, but publicizing their initial findings and success to the wider scientific/research community must surely be right? I wouldn't blame anyone for travelling anywhere to have whatever treatment they can find for serious medical issues, but wouldn't agree without concrete evidence that objectively the NHS has "failed them". The NHS has hard choices to make and many treatments are hideously expensive. The fact has to be faced that there isn't remotely anywhere near enough money to treat everybody, for everything, immediately, with the latest drugs and treatments, on demand. Anyway that said, my intention wasn't to start an argument, and I wish you good luck in your own case. See you knew clearly i was a sufferer and yet more proof of your persistent stalking and tailgating of every post i write. Your obsessed you really are and your now still in denial about knowing my ailment with the evidence again heavily stacked against you. Your credibility is shattered. Go away please...

Look at you bullshitting and back tracking again here's the full conversation. You just help yourself can't stop poking that stick can you. Quote:FLAT STANLEY. Over twelve months on from this remarkable breakthrough and can anybody truthfully say they've heard anything else on the matter ? I certainly haven't because i search frequently on matters like this being a MND sufferer. See this is the problem, when breakthroughs like this happens it takes years to decades to become " introduced into the fraternity". I mean why aren't they throwing people who NEED this treatment on the surgeons table NOW. It's scandalous to think there's a cure out there for people with spinal ailments and diseases and yet the poor old unlucky sufferer's have got to wait forever and a day to get the treatment. It's all down to MONEY surrounded by a mile of red tape i'd presume. The NHS can't wait to shout from the roof tops regarding " A CURE " if only they'd be that enthused about getting you on that surgeons table People like myself with a spinal disease haven't got decades to wait. Quote:Ferocious Aardvaark. Because of course they simply can't and don't "throw people on the operating table", there's a extremely lengthy and detailed process to go through before any new treatment, drug or whatever can be approved for general use. I can easily see how frustrating that is for people who need help now, but there's a reason. Perhaps the best present hope would be for people to get accepted as guinea pigs for research. The chap concerned was on the pitch at an Arsenal match in February this year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31085042 Quote: FLAT STANLEY I'm not being funny but don't preach to me about "lengthy process's" I could write a book on it. They really shouldn't be shouting from the roof tops and giving sufferers false hope. Its simply saying weve got a cure for your disease but unfortunately we can't give it you yet. It bloody stinks. I know a lot more than you about"The Process's of trials. MND trials in my experience are quite scarce with a list as long as your arm in which you get catagorized to qualify in this country. I know sufferer's like myself fundraised to travel to mainland Europe America to try new treatments to FIGHT this disease because this country's NHS system is diabolical. You here people all the time with all types of illness's flying all over the world to find treatment because this country's nhs has failed them and left them with no alternative. I'm not saying DR's and Nurses have failed me but "The whole System has failed my experience miserably. Quote:Ferocious Aardvaark Clearly you have a very personal interest and I was neither 'preaching' nor intending to argue with you, though you have no idea what I know. I do think your comment is a bit unfair on the scientists who published their research as is the norm, but it was jumped on by the media. That's not their fault, but publicizing their initial findings and success to the wider scientific/research community must surely be right? I wouldn't blame anyone for travelling anywhere to have whatever treatment they can find for serious medical issues, but wouldn't agree without concrete evidence that objectively the NHS has "failed them". The NHS has hard choices to make and many treatments are hideously expensive. The fact has to be faced that there isn't remotely anywhere near enough money to treat everybody, for everything, immediately, with the latest drugs and treatments, on demand. Anyway that said, my intention wasn't to start an argument, and I wish you good luck in your own case. See you knew clearly i was a sufferer and yet more proof of your persistent stalking and tailgating of every post i write. Your obsessed you really are and your now still in denial about knowing my ailment with the evidence again heavily stacked against you. Your credibility is shattered. Go away please...

Patience ... You have to wait for one to be around.