Jake the Peg wrote:The point I was countering was that this was our best squad for 20 years which it clearly isn't. I agree that our recruitment has, on the whole, been better than most but we have mainly strengthened what was probably our best aspect last season, whilst not addressing the major weaknesses (lack of quality out wide, average kicking game, no decent hooking options). We've lost a 20+ tries per season winger from a side that struggled to get over the line so there are plenty of ways of looking at recruitment and retention.
I just don't see that we've addressed the problems that were the difference between us and the top sides last year
Yes I can see where your coming from with lineham. But the other thing to think about is he was poor in defence which hopefully will be put right with Carlos and fonua. Our main problem last year was not been able to finish off line breaks and great field position. Our support play was really poor but hopefully we now have the players to see line breaks happen before they do and have the pace to back that up. As much as I hate him danny maguire is the bench mark for this and can make a huge difference especially in tight games. Just have a good feeling about Carlos, hope he's able to show his footwork at the line and even if not make a full break, get a half break with quick ptb.
Jake the Peg wrote:houghton's defence is outstanding but his attacking play is average. His poor distribution from dummy half is one of the reasons our attack is poor. If I were westerman I'd agree as I'd probably have to do a chunk of those 50+ tackles a game houghton does.
I certainly think there is a place in the squad for houghton but we would be so much better with a more attack minded hooker to interchange him with
at last another like me who sees Houghton for what he actually does although have a differing opinion on here you often get called quite sick names (retarded! Really is their any need!? Are the moderators OK with nasty language like this ?) Tin hat ready
sausagefingers wrote::CLAP: at last another like me who sees Houghton for what he actually does although have a differing opinion on here you often get called quite sick names (retarded! Really is their any need!? Are the moderators OK with nasty language like this ?) Tin hat ready
My apologies, I didn't actually think you was retarded, just clueless. You prove me wrong
Jake the Peg wrote:Only half as retared as those who would put him in the England team though
I honestly cant believe you think so little of Houghton, surprises me. I usually agree with most of your comments, but think your way off on this. I'd have a wager on Houghton been in the England squad next
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As I said, these people know more than top SL coaches and players.
Houghton isn't perfect, but like Briscoe his faults are massively over played. some fans will find faults in every player, but how many perfect players are they at our club.
If we had to sell him, most top clubs would look at signing him and the fans would see how important he was and how much he is missed as a player.
Tinkerman23 wrote:I honestly cant believe you think so little of Houghton, surprises me. I usually agree with most of your comments, but think your way off on this. I'd have a wager on Houghton been in the England squad next
I can't question his workrate or his commitment and his defensive efforts are superb but his offensive capabilities are really limited IMO. Like I said earlier, it's one reason we're so poor in attack.
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at last another like me who sees Houghton for what he actually does although have a differing opinion on here you often get called quite sick names (retarded! Really is their any need!? Are the moderators OK with nasty language like this ?) Tin hat ready 
