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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:30 am 
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Imho I think we have the best pack in the competition. Yes I am biased but we are in the top two. My major concern is our spine.
Shaul, Snyed, Pryce and Houghton are the key players. We have very little back up for Houghton and I strongly feel going into the season without a recognised specialist hooker may well be a mistake. I am fully aware of Washy hence the word specialist.
I like Shaul but does he give you that X factor like many of the top full backs. I don't know yet. He may well though develop that way but I am not so sure yet.
Sneyd has to deliver. We do have cover for him but its young kids. It may well be that we don't quite push on as a result. Pryce is a season older. A season wiser yes, but how much more can he take? We need him consistent for the entire season. He started well last season but then tailed off, possibly due to knocks.

That said there is a good balance of youth and experience and I feel properr pros who will look after themselves off the field, which may well give us the edge we are looking for. A very senior player at the club told me that he doesn't think there are any great coaches in the game in the UK. What we actually have is squads of good professional players who know what to do and are winners. He feels that this years squad may well be just that. I thought about that and looked at Leeds and in all honesty i had to agree with him. So maybe LR is not the problem. Just a thought.

I predict 4th or 5th. Better home performances should ensure that. I will also go with my one great desire and thats a Wembley appearance. Traditionally they say you get to Wembley on the back of a great pack. We have that in abundance. They also say your backs win it at Wembley. So maybe I will be disappointed again.






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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:38 am 
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Graham Richards wrote:Imho I think we have the best pack in the competition. Yes I am biased but we are in the top two. My major concern is our spine.
Shaul, Snyed, Pryce and Houghton are the key players. We have very little back up for Houghton and I strongly feel going into the season without a recognised specialist hooker may well be a mistake. I am fully aware of Washy hence the word specialist.
I like Shaul but does he give you that X factor like many of the top full backs. I don't know yet. He may well though develop that way but I am not so sure yet.
Sneyd has to deliver. We do have cover for him but its young kids. It may well be that we don't quite push on as a result. Pryce is a season older. A season wiser yes, but how much more can he take? We need him consistent for the entire season. He started well last season but then tailed off, possibly due to knocks.

That said there is a good balance of youth and experience and I feel properr pros who will look after themselves off the field, which may well give us the edge we are looking for. A very senior player at the club told me that he doesn't think there are any great coaches in the game in the UK. What we actually have is squads of good professional players who know what to do and are winners. He feels that this years squad may well be just that. I thought about that and looked at Leeds and in all honesty i had to agree with him. So maybe LR is not the problem. Just a thought.

I predict 4th or 5th. Better home performances should ensure that. I will also go with my one great desire and thats a Wembley appearance. Traditionally they say you get to Wembley on the back of a great pack. We have that in abundance. They also say your backs win it at Wembley. So maybe I will be disappointed again.



I share your concerns over players in key positions. I don't see us finishing any higher than 6th and more likely 7th or 8th. This squad should be finishing in the top 8 but injuries to a couple of key players could see us at risk of ending up in the middle 8's IMO.

We'll still come up short in big games. sneyd is hit and miss, abdul is still too young to be running games and pryce has never had the skill set we require and will likely spend half of the games injured. We'll still struggle to score enough tries






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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:27 am 
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i think we lack skill in the three quarters, but we do have power - I can see us scoring a lot of powering over the line type tries, rather than free flowing, overlap creating tries

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
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our pack is one of the best in SL,Think sneyd needs to kick on this year which I believe he will do, the days of having a specialist hooker sat on the bench may well be gone, saying that be would have been nice to see what Cunningham could have done for us,imo can see pryce leaving for pastures new before the seasons out, Bradford?. I like shaul, and naughton can cover him, fonah looks a handful,Binman is fine for me, logan looks very good but still a young un,then we have tuimarve sorry for the spelling, who could be anything,so all in all not to bad, for me 4,5,or 6 could well be in our sights,COYH






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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
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I think we could make the top 4 with this squad although I share peoples concern about the hooking role and I also think the half backs need to show a significant improvement both from a playmaking and field kicking perspective. I think we have the best pack in the league and am looking forward to seeing big Frank running out wide in a similar way that Noel Cleal did in 89/91. I believe they are similar types of player. I also think we will see even more from Mini if he is spelled during games.

Looking forward to start of season

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
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I believe this is the best squad with the most depth we've had for 20 years or more - add to that that Radford has another year's experience behind him and I think we'll do well. This pack is arguably the best in the league and Shaul may well to prove to be a big try scorer following Pritchard and Manu around. Houghton's workload may well be reduced (tackling particularly) with our stronger pack and I think Pryce will be ably backed up by Abdul who looked very comfortable in that position and has shown himself to have the guile and strength to play several back to back games in the Super League. And let's not forget that Washbrook has played 6 when pushed as well as Tuimivave who is a 6 too. To say our back-line lacks depth is a little off I reckon with Fonua, Tuimavave, Logan, Talanoa, Michaels, Naughton, Yeaman (if needed), Lancaster. Ultimately, until top quality youth has come through the ranks over several seasons it's a bit hard to fill every position with stars without breaking the cap. Anyway, just so long as our injuries are short term and less than 10 at a time I'm confident of top 4.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
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downtheante wrote:I believe this is the best squad with the most depth we've had for 20 years or more - add to that that Radford has another year's experience behind him and I think we'll do well. This pack is arguably the best in the league and Shaul may well to prove to be a big try scorer following Pritchard and Manu around. Houghton's workload may well be reduced (tackling particularly) with our stronger pack and I think Pryce will be ably backed up by Abdul who looked very comfortable in that position and has shown himself to have the guile and strength to play several back to back games in the Super League. And let's not forget that Washbrook has played 6 when pushed as well as Tuimivave who is a 6 too. To say our back-line lacks depth is a little off I reckon with Fonua, Tuimavave, Logan, Talanoa, Michaels, Naughton, Yeaman (if needed), Lancaster. Ultimately, until top quality youth has come through the ranks over several seasons it's a bit hard to fill every position with stars without breaking the cap. Anyway, just so long as our injuries are short term and less than 10 at a time I'm confident of top 4.



Never in a million years is this squad better than the one we had between around 2003 to 2007. The back row is excellent, hooker only average with no back up. Only 2 top class props although I'm sure ellis will do a job when fit. Halfs could go OK but could be a major weakness, kicking game isn't great and other than fonua, our 3/4's are either average at best or inexperienced.

I think you may be in for a disappointment if you seriously think we'll finish top 4.

How many of our options from 1 to 7 would get into any of the starting 17's of last season's top 4?






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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
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Jake the Peg wrote:Never in a million years is this squad better than the one we had between around 2003 to 2007. The back row is excellent, hooker only average with no back up. Only 2 top class props although I'm sure ellis will do a job when fit. Halfs could go OK but could be a major weakness, kicking game isn't great and other than fonua, our 3/4's are either average at best or inexperienced.

I think you may be in for a disappointment if you seriously think we'll finish top 4.

How many of our options from 1 to 7 would get into any of the starting 17's of last season's top 4?


I disagree slightly. I understand what your saying in terms of quality now, but I think over the last 10 years the standard of players playing today has dropped significantly. How many of the players from the likes of cunningham, Sculthorpe, long, peacock, feilden, deacon, senior, jamie lyon, Richie Barnett,Richard swain would walk into any side even now. What we have to do is look at our recruitment and realise it's the best we have had for 10 yrs and look at our oppositions recruitment. And many teams have Bearley improved or not at all. Wigan have only sam Tompkins as an improvement but on a whole we should have closed the gap. Leeds have lost massive leadership accross multiple positions so in theory we should of closed the gap. So taking into perspective whole recruitment of today's game on paper we should be ok and three more wins should see us compete for top four. But as we all know it has to be transferred onto the pitch. So il stay optimistic for now and hope we can achieve top 6 and being two points of 4th when playoffs start. Then who knows.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Predictions
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I think Wigan & saints will finish top, after that I'm not sure which teams will make the other four spots but it's fairly obvious who will be in the mix

Leeds, cats, hudds, wire are going to be an unknown quantity, as are we. But I think 5th or even 4th is not unrealistic. Whatever your thoughts are, we deserve to be optimistic

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Blackandwhiteforever wrote:I disagree slightly. I understand what your saying in terms of quality now, but I think over the last 10 years the standard of players playing today has dropped significantly. How many of the players from the likes of cunningham, Sculthorpe, long, peacock, feilden, deacon, senior, jamie lyon, Richie Barnett,Richard swain would walk into any side even now. What we have to do is look at our recruitment and realise it's the best we have had for 10 yrs and look at our oppositions recruitment. And many teams have Bearley improved or not at all. Wigan have only sam Tompkins as an improvement but on a whole we should have closed the gap. Leeds have lost massive leadership accross multiple positions so in theory we should of closed the gap. So taking into perspective whole recruitment of today's game on paper we should be ok and three more wins should see us compete for top four. But as we all know it has to be transferred onto the pitch. So il stay optimistic for now and hope we can achieve top 6 and being two points of 4th when playoffs start. Then who knows.


The point I was countering was that this was our best squad for 20 years which it clearly isn't. I agree that our recruitment has, on the whole, been better than most but we have mainly strengthened what was probably our best aspect last season, whilst not addressing the major weaknesses (lack of quality out wide, average kicking game, no decent hooking options). We've lost a 20+ tries per season winger from a side that struggled to get over the line so there are plenty of ways of looking at recruitment and retention.

I just don't see that we've addressed the problems that were the difference between us and the top sides last year






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