knockersbumpMKII wrote:How much he was on isn't relevant, however if as rumoured by many that that was enough for us to be able to get Carney here and stay under the cap that's all that matters. However the simple matter that IS important is we don't have cap space to fit anyone else on a similar wage/quality to Westerman and that to keep us under the cap we needed to let him go, again, believe what you want to but if you think that we would hold back the salary of an England international player to not sign another quality player, not to mention offer a years contract to Michaels (on the basis that Carney really was on the radar) is totally illogical.
Michaels resigned on the 31st of July. Carney was suspended on the 27th of August.
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:No, you called him a turd. The last time you denied it someone posted the quote and then you disappeared for a while, as is your wont.
ComeOnYouUll wrote:No, you called him a turd. The last time you denied it someone posted the quote and then you disappeared for a while, as is your wont.
The Westerman deal hasn't come out of nowhere, so it's not that far a stretch to say we probably needed to release someone to ease cap pressure. Pearson himself even admitted it. I'm not convinced by the club that we have ALL of Westy's wage available and I hope to God we're not planning to waste all we have on BJB.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:So the club/AP have never stretched the truth/told direct lies...okay, whatever, you're wrong but you have your opinion.
I don't have the exact figure, do you, have you seen the amount as documented in the club accounts? if you think that we got £150k for Westerman and believe the club, good for you, I don't. I think it was right to sell him, but I don't believe we got the figure being bandied around.
How much he was on isn't relevant, however if as rumoured by many that that was enough for us to be able to get Carney here and stay under the cap that's all that matters. However the simple matter that IS important is we don't have cap space to fit anyone else on a similar wage/quality to Westerman and that to keep us under the cap we needed to let him go, again, believe what you want to but if you think that we would hold back the salary of an England international player to not sign another quality player, not to mention offer a years contract to Michaels (on the basis that Carney really was on the radar) is totally illogical.
Prove to me how whatever the amount of money has an impact on the club. how much net from expenses, agents fees etc of whatever figure you think it is and let me know what that money is being ploughed into that makes a significant difference to the club. Without that money what would have been scrimped on, the coach...no, that's already a gimme, the backroom staff, nope again, we already scrimp on that too, the academy, well we all know what happened there.
Not sure I follow your logic. If the cap is live, we sold Joe Westerman after all the wheeling and dealing was completed. Surely this means that the whole of his wage deal is now available for signing another player??????? This has no bearing on the fee we recieved for him, however much you believe we got. I cannot understand why you constantly try to debase the club, it's custodian and mangement setup. Your a supporter, supposedly, get over yourself and SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Armavinit wrote:Not sure I follow your logic. If the cap is live, we sold Joe Westerman after all the wheeling and dealing was completed. Surely this means that the whole of his wage deal is now available for signing another player??????? This has no bearing on the fee we recieved for him, however much you believe we got. I cannot understand why you constantly try to debase the club, it's custodian and mangement setup. Your a supporter, supposedly, get over yourself and SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Depends if we've actually registered all of the players we've signed I'd guess. Maybe we had to let westerman go to sign manu for instance?
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:So the club/AP have never stretched the truth/told direct lies...okay, whatever, you're wrong but you have your opinion.
I don't have the exact figure, do you, have you seen the amount as documented in the club accounts? if you think that we got £150k for Westerman and believe the club, good for you, I don't. I think it was right to sell him, but I don't believe we got the figure being bandied around.
No, but neither have you, you choose to say it is not true, which is tantamount to saying the club are lying. I reckon thats a libellous in a court of law
How much he was on isn't relevant, however if as rumoured by many that that was enough for us to be able to get Carney here and stay under the cap that's all that matters. However the simple matter that IS important is we don't have cap space to fit anyone else on a similar wage/quality to Westerman and that to keep us under the cap we needed to let him go, again, believe what you want to but if you think that we would hold back the salary of an England international player to not sign another quality player, not to mention offer a years contract to Michaels (on the basis that Carney really was on the radar) is totally illogical.
Of course its relevant, you are claiming we didn't have cap space, and HAD to let Westerman go, then you either know how much we were over the cap or how much Westerman was on. Neither of which I suspect you know.
Prove to me how whatever the amount of money has an impact on the club. how much net from expenses, agents fees etc of whatever figure you think it is and let me know what that money is being ploughed into that makes a significant difference to the club. Without that money what would have been scrimped on, the coach...no, that's already a gimme, the backroom staff, nope again, we already scrimp on that too, the academy, well we all know what happened there.
As I do not work at the club I have no idea how the net amount received will be spend on, but then again, neither do you. So where are you continue to make unfounded, outlandish statements such as "any amount received will have no impact on the club" are completely false. Do you exeact Pearson to merely put that cash in a cupboard and keep an eye on it from time to time?
Or put another way, you have no evidence or back up to your claims. You just wish them to be true. You are the David Icke of this forum.
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Jake the Peg wrote:Depends if we've actually registered all of the players we've signed I'd guess. Maybe we had to let westerman go to sign manu for instance?
Which clearly refers to his coaching ability as that was what was being discussed but interpret it whatever way you like. As for the Michaels/Carney dates, totally irrelevant, are you saying we only became interested after Carney was suspended and after knowing what had happened belatedly asked the players what they thought...give over. If we were so interested in signing someone else in the backs then why did we resign SM at that point, we already had 3 wingers already so why not wait, he was the obvious one to let go according to most fans here, certainly no-one else was after him. You have your opinion & the club will run out whatever they like because certain fans lap up everything as gospel.
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