Tinkerman23 wrote:I take it back what I thought about Tom Burgess after seeing him play yesterday! Absolute monster
Same. I was critical of him, but he's certainly stepped his game up a few notches. Scary to think we've got George Burgess & Walmsley that could come into that front row too.
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Same. I was critical of him, but he's certainly stepped his game up a few notches. Scary to think we've got George Burgess & Walmsley that could come into that front row too.
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Same. I was critical of him, but he's certainly stepped his game up a few notches. Scary to think we've got George Burgess & Walmsley that could come into that front row too.
England certainly are well stocked with very good front rowers.
Graham Hill G Burgess T Burgess Walmsley Cooper Taylor Watts Amor
Probably forgot a couple too!
Definitely a strong area for England. As for the back three, Farrell, Whitehead and O'Loughlin. As good as they are at club level especially the two Wigan lads I don't think much to them at international level. It's just who do you replace them with.
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A unknown superstar wrote:England certainly are well stocked with very good front rowers.
Graham Hill G Burgess T Burgess Walmsley Cooper Taylor Watts Amor
Probably forgot a couple too!
Definitely a strong area for England. As for the back three, Farrell, Whitehead and O'Loughlin. As good as they are at club level especially the two Wigan lads I don't think much to them at international level. It's just who do you replace them with.
Yeh I agree on the second rowers. Ferres was good last night though, and Farrell is a machine who could play an 80 if needed, but can be a bit anonymous in attack in Internationals. Whitehead I hope will keep on improving.
We've also got a lot of young(ish) back rowers coming through who aren't quite there yet; Currie Greenwood Wardle Ward Savelio
Hopefully a couple of those will kick on ahead of the World Cup.
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He's another (Joe Burgess) who looks absolutely class at club level, but he plays for a team that dominates pretty much every single game. Not saying he's poor because he's not but he's not as good as Briscoe is. Used to make me laugh when fans from all clubs used to say Charnley was better than Briscoe. Not a chance. They play for Wigan who are fantastic but none of them are 'that good' imo.
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A unknown superstar wrote: Definitely a strong area for England. As for the back three, Farrell, Whitehead and O'Loughlin. As good as they are at club level especially the two Wigan lads I don't think much to them at international level. It's just who do you replace them with.
they're ok, but give away too many penalties, especially Farrell. you get away with it at club level but you pay for it at top international level more often than not.
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