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 Post subject: Re: Kiwis
PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:11 pm 
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As the good piece in the Guardian this week

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/o ... ld-cup#_=_

(which also has some sensible BTL comments [from any posters here?]) rightly says:


Playing internationals is more important than anything else
However awesome the sporting theatre, Wigan v Leeds in Manchester is a regional scrap as far as the rest of Britain is concerned.

I don't doubt that the England/Kiwis First Test on Sunday will be a more exciting affair than the RUWC Final. But it will struggle to get a fraction of the TV audience. I proselytise endless for the game with friends, work colleagues etc, but it's surprisingly hard to get anyone to try anything relatively unfamiliar (and league *is* unfamiliar to the vast majority of the British population) without them switching channels after five minutes if it doesn't have instant appeal.
As the good piece in the Guardian this week

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/o ... ld-cup#_=_

(which also has some sensible BTL comments [from any posters here?]) rightly says:


Playing internationals is more important than anything else
However awesome the sporting theatre, Wigan v Leeds in Manchester is a regional scrap as far as the rest of Britain is concerned.

I don't doubt that the England/Kiwis First Test on Sunday will be a more exciting affair than the RUWC Final. But it will struggle to get a fraction of the TV audience. I proselytise endless for the game with friends, work colleagues etc, but it's surprisingly hard to get anyone to try anything relatively unfamiliar (and league *is* unfamiliar to the vast majority of the British population) without them switching channels after five minutes if it doesn't have instant appeal.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiwis
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:47 pm 
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Already 4 posts on the VT calling the Wigan players :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Kiwis
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:14 pm 
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In fairness I thought our lads struggled tonight. I thought Bateman played without the aggression he does for us, Burgess looked nervous, Faz didn't get going until late doors and nor did Lockers. The only lad that came close to potential was Williams who grew in to the game and caused them plenty of problems.

They aren't on there own though. I thought Hardaker was well short of his superleague form, Widdop too an age to get going and bar Hill the starting pack as a unit were lethargic.

Our bench turned it for us and dragged the likes of Graham and Lockers with them second half. I thought there was only Chris Hill from the starting pack who started well and played consistently through the game.

Great win considering we were awful first half.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiwis
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:23 pm 
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We'll need to be better next week, hopefully this game will help settle in the combinations, so I hope we don't make too many changes next week.






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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:27 pm 
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No changes for me as long as Cooper is ok. I'd possibly consider starting Ferres for Whitehead but that 17 needs to build from here.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiwis
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:45 pm 
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We grew into the game for sure, I think we peaked when we needed to but I'd expect the intensity to be raised next week,

Nobody had a bad game but every player could improve so still winning and not playing our best should be a big boost for us

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:17 pm 
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Whilst the Wigan contingent did take a while to get going, I think the same could be said about the whole team in the first half. Williams really stood out though, wasn't overawed by the occasion.

Tom Burgess got us going in the 2nd half and many of the rest picked up after that.

The kiwis defence wAs great out wide and our attack didn't look sharp enough to get the edges any space.

Bateman did struggle but I think will be better for it next week. It's not often he gets tackled as hard as he did tonight.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:20 pm 
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Big Steve wrote:Whilst the Wigan contingent did take a while to get going, I think the same could be said about the whole team in the first half. Williams really stood out though, wasn't overawed by the occasion.

Tom Burgess got us going in the 2nd half and many of the rest picked up after that.

The kiwis defence wAs great out wide and our attack didn't look sharp enough to get the edges any space.

Bateman did struggle but I think will be better for it next week. It's not often he gets tackled as hard as he did tonight.


Yep, it seemed to me we suffered from not having a competitive warm-up game. I do think we'll perform better next week.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:54 pm 
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For anyone who hasn't bought tickets for the 3rd test then I respectfully suggest they get them quickly. I believe that over 20,000 have already been sold (capacity 25,000)

Also over 40,000 sold for London next week (capacity 56,000)






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Rogues Gallery wrote:For anyone who hasn't bought tickets for the 3rd test then I respectfully suggest they get them quickly. I believe that over 20,000 have already been sold (capacity 25,000)

Also over 40,000 sold for London next week (capacity 56,000)


I reckon that 20,000 will have gone up by a decent number already. It certainly made me rush out and buy our 8 tickets.

A late surge will hopefully see it up around 50,000 next week which would be very pleasing.

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