lt will, though I think enough old heads remain for him to be able to carry on in the same vein. Food for thought with regard to whether we retain players too long.

Yes.And i think the amount of influence Cuthbertson had on the side right for the word go, will mean he will play a crucial role on the leadership side of things alongside the likes of McGuire,Burrow,Ablett and JJB when fit.

and now there's not much more than jc and your happy pills defending him now

i said win or lose he should go last year , could have left at the top like ferguson did and left a mess for his moyes

Well, it seems i was way off with my expectations of these lot stepping up as leaders up to now, JJB excluded probably for his lead by example efforts.

Im not the only one, reading back it seems a long time since October when many of us on here thought all things were still rosy in the garden.

I'd take a punt and say that you probably wanted him gone at the end of 2014 too and then who knows if we're successful or not in 2015.

Maybe in the days after the GF it did cross his mind that it would be the perfect time to move on in terms of a successful finish for himself. However it would've been dumping the club into a bit of a mess to have to suddenly find a new coach in the off-season at the same time as Sinfield, Peacock and Leuluai have departed.

To be fair to the guy the last thing he will have wanted is for Sinfield and Peacock to decide to retire in the same season. In an ideal world I'm sure any coach would've preferred them to retire in separate seasons so that you aren't losing all that leadership in one go.

I wonder if Sinfield and Peacock had retired in separate years, how the first season post them would've gone.

Indeed. let us wish our present coach a happy fifth anniversary, and bon voyage come the season's end. He will leave with the record books showing that despite a less than impressive CV, had inherited a superb bunch of dedicated players, (Bailley is not included in those sentiments), who despite his frequently baffling decisions, rose to the occasion more than once, culminating in last seasons brilliant treble.

Perhaps the flotilla paddling up that big Egyptian river could take a moment, and realise, that mass sycophancy is not going to improve our league position. Only a change of coach may do that.