I'm the last one to talk, I've not been whiter than white in the past so don't judge anyone on what they do in their personal lives.
That being said, if Mr H did anything he'd be Rhino's new mascot as he'd be attached to the front of Headingley by his nether regions lol

Lesson for us all here, don't mess with Karen!

Yep talk to anyone in the know in Cas and as Karen says its a case of "let him who casts the first stone!!!" on this one, and as my pal always says it takes two to tango!

I don't think that the Carney thing is dead yet and I guess in the end we have to decide whether we have a team picked firstly because they are nice guys and secondly on their ability. Do you search for good clubmen who might be able to play a bit too or go out and find the very best players you can get your hands on and then manage their personal stuff. Its all about managing and I know what Wigan, Leeds and Saints do!

For me team spirit in camp can see you get a long way and overcome insurmountable odds at times, but in the end the truly great teams have the off the wall individuals who can do the things that win you games from nothing, but on many occasions their talent can often come with a deal of baggage too. It could be the ability to partake in nefarious acts with dogs or to wee in ones own mouth, all of course totally unacceptable but past human frailties in very talented players! Sometimes its the actual arrogance, front and 'daring' aspects of a players make up that make them so good!

The vast majority of Cas fans who know the truth would keep Carney at any price and all of them would have Chase back tomorrow. Just as Leeds fans might not have liked what Zak Hardaker did, but the Club recognising his talent managed his issues and now he's man of Steel. You can't see shipping out the trouble makers as a solution, its a cop out for me, because I think that the issues of those trouble makers, if they are truly talented, have to be addressed and managed. The big teams get the best players, (the match winners and game breakers) to play and manage the rest.

just of course my own views and obviously not those of many on here and anyway it may never happen....

Oh yes!!!

The most disturbing thing I've read on here is that we allegedly allow the players to vote for who we sign or don’t, what utter bollox!

On the topic of Carney, I wouldn't say no to his signing. At the end of the day, if your a single guy and an attractive lady is there offering it up on a plate, there is not many men on Earth who wouldn't drop their fly and have a dabble....teammate's Mrs or not!

Might be a special case and not a regular thing. Given his off field antics it might not be wise to bring someone like that in (talented though they are) without consulting the squad as there's the potential that it could affect team morale.

Good post Wilf,not just your view but mine also.
If Rugby teams,well most sport teams anyhow,just signed/picked choir boys there would be a lot of spare places on teams.

Elite sportsmen and women are just the same as us, they make errors of judgement. We don't know what went on and it's none of our business anyway. I would be prepared to give Carney a second chance. For all those haughty naysayers that are hostile toward the possible signing, don't be so naive to think that he's the first professional rugby player to 'play away from home' with another player wife/girlfriend. Some of the greatest were sods off the field, my old Dad was a taxi driver ion Hull for 25 years and he could tell you some stories!

IMO we should give the guy a break. If he comes to Hull he has at least my full support at least.

Carney is one of the best wingers in the league. If we get a chance we should sign him. He would add

He won't be the first and he certainly won't be the last bloke to do something a bit daft. But thats his personal business and thats were it should be left IMO.