Mrs Barista wrote:Horne seems to have done a good job with the 19s. Interested in who the other teams are - any indication?
Not heard anything from other clubs. Strange given that Hull are often accused of keeping their fans in the dark yet they seem the one club talking about their plans for youth development.
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Not heard anything from other clubs. Strange given that Hull are often accused of keeping their fans in the dark yet they seem the one club talking about their plans for youth development.
It is strange. It has to be a good thing provided there are reasonable opposition teams, but I'm a bit surprised by it tbh, in a good way. Vital to provide a pathway for players not ready for SL at 19 which is likely to be the vast majority of the merged academy graduates.
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Mrs Barista wrote:It is strange. It has to be a good thing provided there are reasonable opposition teams, but I'm a bit surprised by it tbh, in a good way. Vital to provide a pathway for players not ready for SL at 19 which is likely to be the vast majority of the merged academy graduates.
It is good that there will be another path, obviously for the SL clubs involved, but also for young players. It'll be interesting to see how they approach it - will u23s and and the possibility of a run out in SL be better/more attractive than playing in the Championships, or even dual reg (and possibility of a run out in SL)?
Lot's of variables will influence the decision. Getting players to make up numbers might be the tough part. The ones who are getting the idea they're not going to be SL players, are thus not paid much, but are at the point where they could play first-team for a second tier team. The standard within teams could be pretty uneven.
There is a significant risk that players are lost, who could have made SL, under the current system. But we have to be realistic about how much of their early manhood players can hang about waiting for something that in most cases won't happen. In some ways the Championship is the best path, imo. PITA commutes from Hull for part-timers though.
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Not heard anything from other clubs. Strange given that Hull are often accused of keeping their fans in the dark yet they seem the one club talking about their plans for youth development.
There's 15 games so I'd guess 6 clubs? Us, Wigan, Saints, Wire and 2 others?
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Mild Rover wrote:It is good that there will be another path, obviously for the SL clubs involved, but also for young players. It'll be interesting to see how they approach it - will u23s and and the possibility of a run out in SL be better/more attractive than playing in the Championships, or even dual reg (and possibility of a run out in SL)?
Lot's of variables will influence the decision. Getting players to make up numbers might be the tough part. The ones who are getting the idea they're not going to be SL players, are thus not paid much, but are at the point where they could play first-team for a second tier team. The standard within teams could be pretty uneven.
There is a significant risk that players are lost, who could have made SL, under the current system. But we have to be realistic about how much of their early manhood players can hang about waiting for something that in most cases won't happen. In some ways the Championship is the best path, imo. PITA commutes from Hull for part-timers though.
Good points. There will certainly be a load of practical difficulties. I guess if there's a critical mass of teams and it gets momentum there's more chance of coming up with creative ideas to overcome them. One of the benefits of the A team IMO was allowing fans more chances to engage with the club, sort of community thing. Not having our own ground for these games dilutes that aspect.
The new-look team will be made up of the club's non-selected first-team players and academy graduates, taking on similar players from the likes of Warrington Wolves, St. Helens and Wigan. The new competition will get underway on the same weekend that Super League begins in February 2016, with fifteen rounds to be played across the season. The schedule has also been set centrally to avoid as many clashes as possible with the U19s season, which will ensure Hull FC's representatives in the City of Hull Academy will also have the opportunity to wear the black and white shirt throughout next season too. The initial draft calendar outlines that it is likely that both teams’ fixtures will only clash on three or four occasions, which is pleasing for Radford. "It is a smart move and suits all the clubs, who will be keen to see both their U19s lads and some more experienced first-teamers get a run out together," said Hull's head coach. "It is the perfect opportunity now for us to blood our youngsters in a fantastic environment at Bishop Burton as part of our City of Hull Academy setup, but breed them into our systems through reserve grade and then hopefully first-team. "Over the last couple of years there were too many occasions when we couldn't find suitable game time for our players due to various circumstances at first-team, U19s or on dual registration, which is no longer a problem. "Our young players will have the chance to play both U19s and competitive reserve grade football over the season, whilst some of our senior blokes will now have the opportunity for some additional game time when they need it. "We've also got a number of over age players who are now ineligible to play for the U19s, so this will be crucial for those guys to get some games and continue their development." He added: "It's a big move for the competition and one I think will bear fruit for all involved over the coming years."
The new-look team will be made up of the club's non-selected first-team players and academy graduates, taking on similar players from the likes of Warrington Wolves, St. Helens and Wigan. The new competition will get underway on the same weekend that Super League begins in February 2016, with fifteen rounds to be played across the season. The schedule has also been set centrally to avoid as many clashes as possible with the U19s season, which will ensure Hull FC's representatives in the City of Hull Academy will also have the opportunity to wear the black and white shirt throughout next season too. The initial draft calendar outlines that it is likely that both teams’ fixtures will only clash on three or four occasions, which is pleasing for Radford. "It is a smart move and suits all the clubs, who will be keen to see both their U19s lads and some more experienced first-teamers get a run out together," said Hull's head coach. "It is the perfect opportunity now for us to blood our youngsters in a fantastic environment at Bishop Burton as part of our City of Hull Academy setup, but breed them into our systems through reserve grade and then hopefully first-team. "Over the last couple of years there were too many occasions when we couldn't find suitable game time for our players due to various circumstances at first-team, U19s or on dual registration, which is no longer a problem. "Our young players will have the chance to play both U19s and competitive reserve grade football over the season, whilst some of our senior blokes will now have the opportunity for some additional game time when they need it. "We've also got a number of over age players who are now ineligible to play for the U19s, so this will be crucial for those guys to get some games and continue their development." He added: "It's a big move for the competition and one I think will bear fruit for all involved over the coming years."
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