Cuthbertson and Williams for me.

Cuthbertson and Williams for me.

Cuthbertson edging Walmsley mainly because when head to head Cuthbertson has simply out played him and Saints.

I didn't rate Williams at the start of the season, but as the season progresses so do his performances.

What a shocking short list

Out of that I'd vote for Hardaker and Williams

Out of interest, who wouldn't you have on the list and who would you replace them with?

It's the same every year. Every year it's "there's no stand outs this year", "it's been a poor year".

RL fans are just a set of negative w@nkers. We wonder why the sport doesn't attract more fans, but it's no surprise when the people who watch it do nothing but, criticise, and talk the sport down.

I'd swap Walmsley and Currie for McGillvary and Percival.

walmsley has been magnificent, and as others have said has almost single handedly carried saints at times, he gets my vote

as for the young player, well i honestly can't say any of them have impressed me.

Why is it a shocking list?

Walmsley has made over 4,000m with the ball and Cuthbertson has absolutely smashed records in offloading and has done around double the amount of the next leading guy.

I think either of those two would be worthier winners than most of the recent winners of the award.

I think so too, both players doing a tremendous amount of work and having a major impact on there team in the hardest place ........the engine room.

From what I've seen of Leeds, Cuthbertson and Hardacker have made the difference for them in plenty of games. Walmsley, good player that he is, just hasn't had the wow factor about him.

By the way, does anyone know how the shortlist is drawn up?