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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:05 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Perhaps he has speculated to accumulate. Are you getting a pass?


Nope, our abysmal home performances mean I'm picking and choosing my games next season, if the team are playing well and I think it'll be entertaining I'll be there, if it's the same dross served up I'll save my cash and time, and RLFans will be saved my post match rants!

As for the spending, I can't argue with the quality of the players coming in, but the crucial part of the coaching team is still (bafflingly!) being done on the cheap. Id buy a pass tomorrow if an experienced, proven head coach was brought in.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearson
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:14 pm 
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UllFC wrote:Nope, our abysmal home performances mean I'm picking and choosing my games next season, if the team are playing well and I think it'll be entertaining I'll be there, if it's the same dross served up I'll save my cash and time, and RLFans will be saved my post match rants!

As for the spending, I can't argue with the quality of the players coming in, but the crucial part of the coaching team is still (bafflingly!) being done on the cheap. Id buy a pass tomorrow if an experienced, proven head coach was brought in.


Good stuff. Will you still be ranting on here throughout the off season or saving your time and effort? Genuine question, not a snide one.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearson
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:25 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Good stuff. Will you still be ranting on here throughout the off season or saving your time and effort? Genuine question, not a snide one.


Saving my time and effort and not posting after Sunday, the only exception being if something really big happens that may change the clubs future such as an SMC sale.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearson
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:42 pm 
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UllFC wrote:Saving my time and effort and not posting after Sunday, the only exception being if something really big happens that may change the clubs future such as an SMC sale.

SMC is an interesting one. No inside info whatsoever but I do have doubts that things will be the same come February.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearson
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:56 pm 
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What are the smc supposed to be doing to us then? Seems to me this all stems from pearson being underhand when he owned us and worked for the allams.

Like has been said, the playing roster is looking better next year and we should do OK but I have no faith we will with our current coach. I'll be buying my pass but will probably be the last






The poor man's bonaire

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Mrs Barista wrote:SMC is an interesting one. No inside info whatsoever but I do have doubts that things will be the same come February.


I agree changes seem to be in the air, but with the main players at the KC being the erratic Allam, Pearson who gets an idea in his head and sticks to it doggedly, the dinosaurs of Hull City Council...Who knows what will happen!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:04 pm 
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Jake the Peg wrote:What are the smc supposed to be doing to us then? Seems to me this all stems from pearson being underhand when he owned us and worked for the allams.

Like has been said, the playing roster is looking better next year and we should do OK but I have no faith we will with our current coach. I'll be buying my pass but will probably be the last


The group coming in look better than the group going out overall IMO. I think Radford will be under pressure come Easter if we're not making headway. On the SMC, were the council meant to have exercised some governance when ownership changed? All a bit murky.

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 Post subject: Re: Pearson
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:09 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Perhaps he has speculated to accumulate. Are you getting a pass?

He has done in a half ass-ed kind of fashion and doing things by halves is the downfall of most businesses.
If he had even the remotest idea about successful business he'd understand you need proper infra (not just here and there) and well proven, experienced leadership, people who know what they are doing and not what we have had which is amateur from top to bottom.
If he'd put his money where his mouth was, actually employed a professional CEO to reshape the club from top to bottom as well as someone who knows sport (which needn't have been RL) we wouldn't be in the shat we are now and we wouldn't have him yet again banging the drum in some veiled statement that puts everything squarely back onto the shoulders of the supporters.
You are however far too blind to see his failings, it won't bring us success the way he he going about things, not least because what we have in place is never going to be enough to be the best (or even close) and on top of that he can't even fathom the failings himself (or admit to us he's got it badly wrong). So it's pretty clear that he was never prepared to go all in & speculate properly to accumulate, he thought he could just throw a bit of money at one aspect and think that would do.

The guy is a chancer and a poor one at that and he's been found out and is now shatting himself as he's watched the club start to implode under his stewardship. I would say next season and 2017 are the last roll of the dice for him but he has done so much damage, bar winning the GF he's screwed because he can't offload the club whilst it's slowly dying a death support wise as he'll lose too much money.
Oh I expect us to get up the ladder a place or three next season, might even get close to a final but it's too late, Pearson is fighting fires right now and his hose isn't long enough.

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knockersbumpMKII wrote:He has done in a half ass-ed kind of fashion and doing things by halves is the downfall of most businesses.
If he had even the remotest idea about successful business he'd understand you need proper infra (not just here and there) and well proven, experienced leadership, people who know what they are doing and not what we have had which is amateur from top to bottom.
If he'd put his money where his mouth was, actually employed a professional CEO to reshape the club from top to bottom as well as someone who knows sport (which needn't have been RL) we wouldn't be in the shat we are now and we wouldn't have him yet again banging the drum in some veiled statement that puts everything squarely back onto the shoulders of the supporters.
You are however far too blind to see his failings, it won't bring us success the way he he going about things, not least because what we have in place is never going to be enough to be the best (or even close) and on top of that he can't even fathom the failings himself (or admit to us he's got it badly wrong). So it's pretty clear that he was never prepared to go all in & speculate properly to accumulate, he thought he could just throw a bit of money at one aspect and think that would do.

The guy is a chancer and a poor one at that and he's been found out and is now shatting himself as he's watched the club start to implode under his stewardship. I would say next season and 2017 are the last roll of the dice for him but he has done so much damage, bar winning the GF he's screwed because he can't offload the club whilst it's slowly dying a death support wise as he'll lose too much money.
Oh I expect us to get up the ladder a place or three next season, might even get close to a final but it's too late, Pearson is fighting fires right now and his hose isn't long enough.

Cant disagree with any of that

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:32 am 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:He has done in a half ass-ed kind of fashion and doing things by halves is the downfall of most businesses.
If he had even the remotest idea about successful business he'd understand you need proper infra (not just here and there) and well proven, experienced leadership, people who know what they are doing and not what we have had which is amateur from top to bottom.
If he'd put his money where his mouth was, actually employed a professional CEO to reshape the club from top to bottom as well as someone who knows sport (which needn't have been RL) we wouldn't be in the shat we are now and we wouldn't have him yet again banging the drum in some veiled statement that puts everything squarely back onto the shoulders of the supporters.
You are however far too blind to see his failings, it won't bring us success the way he he going about things, not least because what we have in place is never going to be enough to be the best (or even close) and on top of that he can't even fathom the failings himself (or admit to us he's got it badly wrong). So it's pretty clear that he was never prepared to go all in & speculate properly to accumulate, he thought he could just throw a bit of money at one aspect and think that would do.

The guy is a chancer and a poor one at that and he's been found out and is now shatting himself as he's watched the club start to implode under his stewardship. I would say next season and 2017 are the last roll of the dice for him but he has done so much damage, bar winning the GF he's screwed because he can't offload the club whilst it's slowly dying a death support wise as he'll lose too much money.
Oh I expect us to get up the ladder a place or three next season, might even get close to a final but it's too late, Pearson is fighting fires right now and his hose isn't long enough.


I've criticised him plenty of times. Poor judgement, overstated goals, lack of contrition. Easier for you to claim otherwise granted, it doesn't suit.

There are plenty of issues remaining. Squad structure, coaching experience, SMC relationship. I never pretend otherwise, why would I?

The reality is AP is very clearly not as wealthy as the backers of the top 4, Warrington, Salford. One factor that can help us compete is a our fanbase. Our best chance of a seat at the top table is to pull together, surely? There is no queue of suitors waiting to take the club on and times are tight. Let's say the club goes tits up next year. You could derive some smug satisfaction from having sat back with your arms folded, or you could look back and say you didn't agree with everything that was said or done but the efforts of the club in recruitment and youth development merited support and you did your bit. Choices to make and attitudes to choose.

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