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Post subject: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:25 am

Mugwump

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I asked this on the VT but it's equally valid here:

Let's say Powell wasn't trying to attack Lineham's eyes - don't you think the ref should have said, "Sam, I know you weren't trying to attack Tom Lineham's eyes - but I'm sending you off because YOU ATTACKED TOM LINEHAM'S EYES!".

I mean, refs don't let someone off for attacking someone's jaw with the elbow because "it's accidental".

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:02 am

ComeOnYouUll

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:07 am

Trawlerman

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I refereed RU for a while. One of the things we were taught is you are not mind readers and can only make decisions on facts and not what you think the player might of intending. In this case the referee doesn't know what the players in intentions were but the facts are the defenders fingers "attacked" the eyes of the ball carrier. Based on facts an attack to the eye and either a red or yellow card.

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:18 am

mikey471

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This was a straight red card. It's a attack to the face with an open hand which looks like a blatant gouge.

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:28 am

Mrs Barista

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mikey471 wrote:This was a straight red card. It's a attack to the face with an open hand which looks like a blatant gouge.

Agreed. One thing I'm not sure about is when the referee can ask the 4th official. Multiple replays whilst Lineham was being treated showed it was at least a penalty. Sometimes onfield decisions are changed then the ref's received a word in his ear. If that had been Danny McGuire instead of Lineham, in a meaningful game, my view is that there would have been a penalty as a minimum and more likely a dismissal.

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:54 am

Jake the Peg

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I don't think there was intent but that's irrelevant. Should have been a penalty minimum but a sending off would have been justified IMO

The poor man's bonaire

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:02 am

spegs

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Mrs Barista wrote:Agreed. One thing I'm not sure about professional sportsman has the time and the inclination to referee can ask the 4th official. Multiple replays whilst Lineham was being treated showed it was at least a penalty. Sometimes onfield decisions are changed then the ref's received a word in his ear. If that had been Danny McGuire instead of Lineham, in a meaningful game, my view is that there would have been a penalty as a minimum and more likely a dismissal.

Do you seriously believe in your own self loving opinion that a professional sportsman has the time and the inclination to gouge a winger in the tackle from that angle? Are you and Jake married....or do you just attend the same self righteous seminars?

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:06 am

Jake the Peg

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spegs wrote:Do you seriously believe in your own self loving opinion that a professional sportsman has the time and the inclination to gouge a winger in the tackle from that angle? Are you and Jake married....or do you just attend the same self righteous seminars?

She disagrees with pretty much everything I say so we definitely could be married.

I haven't accused him of purposely gouging and specifically said I didn't believe it was intentional but that's irrelevant. The rules aren't about intent, they're about what happened

The poor man's bonaire

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:24 am

mikey471

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If you go into a tackle with your hand looking like a claw and rake it down / jab it into an opponents face it's likely to cause damage. Don't think there's an accusation of it being premeditated, however it 'looks' pretty bad in the footage and warranted action by the officials.

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Post subject: Re: Am I missing something here?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:29 am

Tinkerman23

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High tackle for me, to not get a penalty was a joke. Sending off would of been very harsh

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