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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:48 pm 
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Not done enough to justify keeping him, in my opinion.

He had a heavy price tag, a large wage and was touted as a big thing. I haven't seen any fans of other clubs coveting his signature either.

That speaks more than OPTA stats.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:51 pm 
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Problem is that people come on here and slate the player, then when they're challenged with facts and statistics they roll out the 'you can't have a decent debate on here anymore'. Well, make a sound argument and you'll get a debate. It's not difficult.
We've even now got someone trying to say he makes more errors and mistakes than he's marked down for. It's becoming ridiculous.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:52 pm 
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*1865* wrote:Everybody can have an opinion, you can't then complain if it's challenged though, that's what a forum is about.

No doubt we've lost better players than Westerman, that's not really the debate.


I put my opinion about Westerman on and accepted the opinions and replies of others but some other posts are not opinion based,it's just what I say goes and your wrong and enough examples of it on here anyway.So putting a laughing face is a balanced opinion????






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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:55 pm 
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Diablo1967 wrote:Not done enough to justify keeping him, in my opinion.

He had a heavy price tag

Not his fault. :roll:

Diablo1967 wrote:a large wage


Why mention something you can't possibly know?

Diablo1967 wrote:and was touted as a big thing.


By who?

Diablo1967 wrote:I haven't seen any fans of other clubs coveting his signature either.


That obviously means he wouldn't be wanted by any other club then! :lol:

Diablo1967 wrote:That speaks more than OPTA stats.


So you list things that are beyond a players control to knock him down about? Sums it all up.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:57 pm 
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Diablo1967 wrote:Not done enough to justify keeping him, in my opinion.

He had a heavy price tag, a large wage and was touted as a big thing. I haven't seen any fans of other clubs coveting his signature either.

That speaks more than OPTA stats.


You have no idea what he's being paid FFS.






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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
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*1865* wrote:Problem is that people come on here and slate the player, then when they're challenged with facts and statistics they roll out the 'you can't have a decent debate on here anymore'. Well, make a sound argument and you'll get a debate. It's not difficult.
We've even now got someone trying to say he makes more errors and mistakes than he's marked down for. It's becoming ridiculous.


If that's aimed at me then admit it,nobody has trotted out stats to me but I read them on here and they was surprising to say the least,Wezterman may be suffering from not being the main pivot now and gone back to the Aussie style 13,where last season as the main pivot and ball handler,he was playing his more natural game and got England reconnection,but this year,he hasn't been as good and that where opinions about his consistency come in






“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.

Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.

"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:59 pm 
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fc baldy wrote:I put my opinion about Westerman on and accepted the opinions and replies of others but some other posts are not opinion based,it's just what I say goes and your wrong and enough examples of it on here anyway.So putting a laughing face is a balanced opinion????

The problem here is you think the ones that are 'pro' Westerman' are the ones who think like that.

Jimmy's post got the reply it deserved. To suggest JA is just 'a run of games' from being able to replace Westerman is laughable.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:02 pm 
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*1865* wrote:The problem here is you think the ones that are 'pro' Westerman' are the ones who think like that.

Jimmy's post got the reply it deserved. To suggest JA is just 'a run of games' from being able to replace Westerman is laughable.


How do you know it's laughable???...are you at training everyday,seeing how his fitness levels are,how his conditioning is going,are you a member of the coaching staff??????..........if they think he is ready then the coaching staff will put him in.






“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.

Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.

"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:03 pm 
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fc baldy wrote:If that's aimed at me then admit it,nobody has trotted out stats to me but I read them on here and they was surprising to say the least,Wezterman may be suffering from not being the main pivot now and gone back to the Aussie style 13,where last season as the main pivot and ball handler,he was playing his more natural game and got England reconnection,but this year,he hasn't been as good and that where opinions about his consistency come in

If it was aimed at you I'd have quoted you!

I don't disagree with what you've said here and it's been said by me and others too. But I don't see how you can accuse him of being inconsistent when even you've said his role has changed this year. You can see in his defensive stats that he's been consistently fantastic for us, but his role has changed in attack (which isn't his fault) and he's being slated for not being as influential!

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
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fc baldy wrote:How do you know it's laughable???...are you at training everyday,seeing how his fitness levels are,how his conditioning is going,are you a member of the coaching staff??????..........if they think he is ready then the coaching staff will put him in.

I've watched Abdull for years now, he's miles away from replacing 30-50 tackles and 20-30 carries every game. I don't think you need to be a member of the coaching staff to see it either.

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