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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:06 pm 
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fc baldy wrote:Bitching and slagging off apart,there has been some valid points raised about both players.Im not a massive Westerman fan either,he can have a couple of good games but then go missing for a couple,too inconsistent for me and always misses the big shot but can get his hands dirty as well so can see both sides of coin.Abdull is a 13 wrote all over him and will be outstanding in that role in yrs to come,if a offer came in,I'd take it for Westy and play Whiting at 13 until Abdull is ready.

Whiting at 13, I'd rather have Minichello there tbh

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:28 pm 
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Whiting at 13? No ta.

Abbo will play there EVENTUALLY. I wouldn't have an issue if Westerman was injured and Abdull stepped in. He'd be an able 13.

Westermans annoying habit of jumping out to make a big hit and missing is getting ridiculous now.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:43 pm 
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Diablo1967 wrote:Westermans annoying habit of jumping out to make a big hit and missing is getting ridiculous now.

Another Westy myth! Can you even jump out of the line in the middle? I reckon 90%+ of his tackles are on forwards, maybe his line speed should be replicated by those around him in that case?

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:46 pm 
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Not a myth. What I see and those around me.

Westerman for me has NOT lived up to the hype. Remember we paid a hell of a wedge to get him (More than Sneyd). I know which has given better VFM.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:32 pm 
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Diablo1967 wrote:Not a myth. What I see and those around me.

Westerman for me has NOT lived up to the hype. Remember we paid a hell of a wedge to get him (More than Sneyd). I know which has given better VFM.

He was player of the year and represented England last year! He's been fantastic for over 2 years now. People just don't like him, that's fair enough, but there's absolutely no stats to back up this idea he's not been anything else but very good.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:05 pm 
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*1865* wrote:He was player of the year and represented England last year! He's been fantastic for over 2 years now. People just don't like him, that's fair enough, but there's absolutely no stats to back up this idea he's not been anything else but very good.


Absolute nonsense. I really like the guy but think he's overrated as a rugby player. And to say he's been "fantastic" for two years is an exaggeration of gargantuan proportions.






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Raggytash wrote:Absolute nonsense. I really like the guy but think he's overrated as a rugby player. And to say he's been "fantastic" for two years is an exaggeration of gargantuan proportions.

Can you explain just how he's overrated? Because winning player of the year and getting international recognition don't point to someone being overrated. He's not been as good in attack as he was last year, but he's still been fantastic in defence.

You've only got to ask the players he plays with every week how good he is.

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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:13 am 
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Diablo1967 wrote:Not a myth. What I see and those around me.

Westerman for me has NOT lived up to the hype. Remember we paid a hell of a wedge to get him (More than Sneyd). I know which has given better VFM.

He's missed 37 tackles all season. For reference, Minichello has missed 72 and Houghton 54.

So, yes - it is a myth. I guess some people just see what they want to see.

Oh - and it's not his responsibility to live up to the 'hype' or justify his transfer fee. Neither are under his control.






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 Post subject: Re: Abdull
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:21 am 
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Westy was more effective last season in attack,
as he knew his role , as he was the main central pivot.

This year with Sneyd, assuming that role, both Westy & Sneyd for mine both appear to be confused, who is the central pivot.....

Defensively Westerman is superb. -IMO

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