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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:22 pm 
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He is only making a point relevant to the post, in that we are told that the current academy is not working and not producing any young players that are good enough yet we have seen in Abdull who the post is about (and indeed Turgot, Downs, Logan, Lancaster and Fash) that we can, he's entitled to an opinion at least.






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The Dentist Wilf wrote:He is only making a point relevant to the post, in that we are told that the current academy is not working and not producing any young players that are good enough yet we have seen in Abdull who the post is about (and indeed Turgot, Downs, Logan, Lancaster and Fash) that we can, he's entitled to an opinion at least.


Thank you Wilf.

I wasn't trying to derail anything, talking about successful products of the academy and the academy structure itself go hand in hand don't they? I find it frustrating when I hear that the academy wasn't producing when it clearly is, and I don't like the thought or other clubs benefiting from that.

Anyway BOT I suppose, the lad seems to get better every game, I even think that it might not be a good time to cash in Westerman? (it won't happen, but I can see Abdull forcing JW out of his position next year)






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Abdull is still 2-3 years off playing 13 regularly, he doesn't have the fitness or stamina to play there yet and people are just getting giddy. Another few years in the halves will be his development with the odd spell at 13.
As i've said on another thread, if I was Pryce i'd be worried about my starting place for next year.

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Abdull's presence in the halves means there's no need to rush HTW either, great position to be in.

in a few years we'll have Abdull, Sneyd, HTW, Shaul & Houghton at 1, 6, 7, 9 & 13. 4 of which came through our academy.

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BESTY wrote:Great the way he organised play on his outside on the Saints 20 and then dropped westerman through a hole on his inside shoulder.

Not complaining but it was a mile forward

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Tinkerman23 wrote:Would get the number 13 shirt for me next season. Hes exactly what loose forward should be


Abdull has really impressed me this year, and for a 19 year old to have gained as much game time as he has this season proves that he's very well thought of by the coaching staff & players.

Is he ready to be chucked in at 13 week in week out ahead of an England International? No.

Sometimes, I think fans can be guilty of not seeing a defensive effort as much as they see an attacking effort. I also get the sense that our fans (generally) still haven't taken to Westerman yet for whatever reason. Defensively, he's huge for us, and been fantastic all year. His form in attack has been patchy this year to be fair, a couple of error-riddled games can sometimes stick out compared to a dozen good games.

I see Abdull more as a successor to Pryce at 6. 2016 he'll continue as he has done this season, and take on the mantle in 2017.






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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Abdull has really impressed me this year, and for a 19 year old to have gained as much game time as he has this season proves that he's very well thought of by the coaching staff & players.

Is he ready to be chucked in at 13 week in week out ahead of an England International? No.

Sometimes, I think fans can be guilty of not seeing a defensive effort as much as they see an attacking effort. I also get the sense that our fans (generally) still haven't taken to Westerman yet for whatever reason. Defensively, he's huge for us, and been fantastic all year. His form in attack has been patchy this year to be fair, a couple of error-riddled games can sometimes stick out compared to a dozen good games.

I see Abdull more as a successor to Pryce at 6. 2016 he'll continue as he has done this season, and take on the mantle in 2017.

Great post, agree 100%.

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*1865* wrote:As i've said on another thread, if I was Pryce i'd be worried about my starting place for next year.


Yes I agree. Great performances from Abdull so far and a very promising talent. Think we'll start with Pryce next year but there'll certainly be some selection headaches for Radford and LP can certainly not afford to be complacent.

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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Abdull has really impressed me this year, and for a 19 year old to have gained as much game time as he has this season proves that he's very well thought of by the coaching staff & players.

Is he ready to be chucked in at 13 week in week out ahead of an England International? No.

Sometimes, I think fans can be guilty of not seeing a defensive effort as much as they see an attacking effort. I also get the sense that our fans (generally) still haven't taken to Westerman yet for whatever reason. Defensively, he's huge for us, and been fantastic all year. His form in attack has been patchy this year to be fair, a couple of error-riddled games can sometimes stick out compared to a dozen good games.

I see Abdull more as a successor to Pryce at 6. 2016 he'll continue as he has done this season, and take on the mantle in 2017.

Just my opinion but a 13 should be more than a good defensive player, Westerman supposed to be this great ball handling forward, not seen it enough consistently, overrated for me and sick of hearing about his potential. hes a big big bloke and never brakes a tackle, poor and stupid off loads, stupid penalties. Id play Abdul over him, if not, really think Washbrook will push him for a starting birth, or play manu or Pritchard at 13

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Tinkerman23 wrote::idea: Just my opinion but a 13 should be more than a good defensive player, Westerman supposed to be this great ball handling forward, not seen it enough consistently, overrated for me and sick of hearing about his potential. hes a big big bloke and never brakes a tackle, poor and stupid off loads, stupid penalties. Id play Abdul over him, if not, really think Washbrook will push him for a starting birth, or play manu or Pritchard at 13


Ok. It sounds that you almost have something against him? Like I said in my previous post, some fans still haven't warmed to him for whatever reason.

His defence is fantastic in the middle for us. Abdull at 19 isn't physically ready to get through the amount of work that Westy does, and do it to the same standard.

Ball in hand, yeh I agree to an extent, like I said he's had a few off games. But, whilst stats don't tell a full story, they do go someway to disproving some of your assertions made in your post:
Penalties - 7
Errors - 5
Tackle Busts - 39

I hope Washbrook is pushing him for a starting berth, I hope every player in the squad is either pushing or being pushed for a place in the side.






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