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Itchy Arsenal wrote:Pretty surprised of some the comments on this board as normally you get from a number of people a pretty good balanced view. There isn't one team who doesn't look to slowing down the ptb or moving move up fast whilst defending. Teams do it in different guises but they all do it. Wane isn't the "ape" that some suggest and how many coaches would have coped with the churn of players that he has had yet still won trophies and this season with a poor pack still be in 2nd place in the table? Your coach is so well liked on this board I think that there is thread of several hundred pages begging him to go and he hasn't got a clue on how to use substitutes etc etc You are a decent team and could win all 3 trophies this season no doubt about that but you are beatable so I wouldn't personally be bragging just yet. Just one question which I genuinely don't know the answer to but when was the last time Leeds actually headed up the league in terms of points scored in a season? With your attacking aplomb I'm sure that this occurs on a very regular basis. I do know that Wigan on a pretty regular basis in the last 5 or 6 years have topped the league for number of points and tries scored and our wingers have habitually topped the try scoring lists. Not bad for spoilers and lack of flair.
Leeds last topped the league for points scored in 2009.
2005-2015 Leeds have topped the league for points scored 3 times (2005, 2009 & 2015) Wigan have topped the league for points scored twice (2014 & 2012)
Saints = 4 times (2006, 2007, 2008 & 2010) Wire = once (2011) Huddersfield = once (2013)
In those seasons Leeds scored 8,968 points, an average of 815 points per season. Wigan scored 8,325 points, an average of 756 points per season.
Not that it matters really because number of points scored isn't always a sign of a better playing style. A try scored by barging over from a metre out or from a kick is the same number of points as a try scored from a flowing move.
Itchy Arsenal wrote:Pretty surprised of some the comments on this board as normally you get from a number of people a pretty good balanced view. There isn't one team who doesn't look to slowing down the ptb or moving move up fast whilst defending. Teams do it in different guises but they all do it. Wane isn't the "ape" that some suggest and how many coaches would have coped with the churn of players that he has had yet still won trophies and this season with a poor pack still be in 2nd place in the table? Your coach is so well liked on this board I think that there is thread of several hundred pages begging him to go and he hasn't got a clue on how to use substitutes etc etc You are a decent team and could win all 3 trophies this season no doubt about that but you are beatable so I wouldn't personally be bragging just yet. Just one question which I genuinely don't know the answer to but when was the last time Leeds actually headed up the league in terms of points scored in a season? With your attacking aplomb I'm sure that this occurs on a very regular basis. I do know that Wigan on a pretty regular basis in the last 5 or 6 years have topped the league for number of points and tries scored and our wingers have habitually topped the try scoring lists. Not bad for spoilers and lack of flair.
here we go again nobody on this thread has bragged at all never mind just yet
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Him wrote:Leeds last topped the league for points scored in 2009.
2005-2015 Leeds have topped the league for points scored 3 times (2005, 2009 & 2015) Wigan have topped the league for points scored twice (2014 & 2012)
Saints = 4 times (2006, 2007, 2008 & 2010) Wire = once (2011) Huddersfield = once (2013)
In those seasons Leeds scored 8,968 points, an average of 815 points per season. Wigan scored 8,325 points, an average of 756 points per season.
Not that it matters really because number of points scored isn't always a sign of a better playing style. A try scored by barging over from a metre out or from a kick is the same number of points as a try scored from a flowing move.
So the answer is twice previously but not once in the past six years. Sounds like Leeds were the Stoke City of this decade. Do the stats for the past five years and the whole of SL era and see where Leeds are. Pretty convenient that you chose the stats from 2005. All I am saying is stones and glass houses. So how do you measure playing style? I think that you are implying that it can only be a subjective which is effectively just a matter of opinion. Genuine thanks for the stats. I would never have had Huddersfield as top points scorers.
Itchy Arsenal wrote:Here we go again?? I took from the thread title that if Wigan are Stoke City then Fallon didn't consider Leeds to West Brom or Watford.
But comparing Wigan to Stoke is not bragging on behalf of Leeds fans ,although Lewis Jones once described Leeds as the Arsenal of Rugby League ,but that was in 1958 and if he had compared them to a football team in 1964-1974 he will no doubt have changed it to another team.Times change
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lionarmour87 wrote:But comparing Wigan to Stoke is not bragging on behalf of Leeds fans ,although Lewis Jones once described Leeds as the Arsenal of Rugby League ,but that was in 1958 and if he had compared them to a football team in 1964-1974 he will no doubt have changed it to another team.Times change
At the moment Leeds are the best team in the competition by a country mile and play great rugby and were very much deserved winners last night. I fully expect them to win all 3 trophies but stranger things have happened if they don't. Wigan this season are pretty poor particularly in the props which is where I think Leeds are far superior to all teams this season. I don't think that we will get to the GF to play Leeds but if we did we could pull off a surprise victory albeit it would have to be via hard work rather than expansive play with the current crop of players.
Itchy Arsenal wrote:At the moment Leeds are the best team in the competition by a country mile and play great rugby and were very much deserved winners last night. I fully expect them to win all 3 trophies but stranger things have happened if they don't. Wigan this season are pretty poor particularly in the props which is where I think Leeds are far superior to all teams this season. I don't think that we will get to the GF to play Leeds but if we did we could pull off a surprise victory albeit it would have to be via hard work rather than expansive play with the current crop of players.
And it wouldn't come as any surprise to anyone if Wigan won SL either
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FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK
Itchy Arsenal wrote:Here we go again?? I took from the thread title that if Wigan are Stoke City then Fallon didn't consider Leeds to West Brom or Watford.
Funny enough no, we are more like Arsenal at the moment. The best playing side in the competition, the best to watch, but who know like Arsenal that doesn't always mean trophies. But for the game, I would prefer the stylish teams win.
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