Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:07 pm
Lord Elpers
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What a mess Red Ed has left behind! The public must be sighing with relief that they got the general election right. The Labour is in shambles and are demonstrating that not only are they not fit for office but they now are not fit for HM opposition.
The rules of their leadership election were so full of holes that it has been exploited by fraudsters to such an extent that they are considering calling the whole thing off. Another fine mess Stanley....!
Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:41 am
cod'ead
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Lord Elpers wrote:What a mess Red Ed has left behind! The public must be sighing with relief that they got the general election right. The Labour is in shambles and are demonstrating that not only are they not fit for office but they now are not fit for HM opposition.
The rules of their leadership election were so full of holes that it has been exploited by fraudsters to such an extent that they are considering calling the whole thing off. Another fine mess Stanley....!
"they are considering calling the whole thing off"
They are?
Where's that guff come from then?
When's the next plane due on your Fantasy Island?
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Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:07 am
JerryChicken
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Lord Elpers wrote:Well in my case it wasn't the rich that took action but I went abroad in 1977 having got tired of the pay freeze and rising mortgage interest rates. I managed to quadruple my income (tax free) and returned after the winter of discontent so its not a just theory as I met plenty of others who did the same. This was before we started a family so it was an easy decision.
Your last sentence sums it all up.
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Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:09 am
JerryChicken
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Lord Elpers wrote:How right you are. But JC wouldn't mind as he would be turning wine into water at the cozy garden parties with his friends from Hamas and Hezbollah.
You have me completely baffled with that reply, could you explain it when you are sober ?
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Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:14 am
JerryChicken
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Dita's Slot Meter wrote:I was thinking more of all those companies that trade and provide jobs in this country - Its a global market now, nothing like back in the 70's - Will those international companies hand over extra taxes without any consequences??
Of course not... there will be huge job losses, even companies upping sticks and finding more corporate friendly countries to carry out their business in.
Of course, Jeremy's massively inflated state will soak up the unemployed and with the Unions in his ear telling him what over-inflated rates of pay to give the lucky ones who get 'work', inflation will soon be on a not-so-steady rise.
Throw in the inevitable industrial action when Jeremy tries to tell the Unions that we are broke and, hey presto, you are right, we are back in the 70's, only not the 70's you remember concerning the filthy rich, but the 70's which was generally sh!te for all concerned.
So when you refered to "the rich" in the context of raising taxes to the higher earners you weren't talking of the usuall guff that puffs out from bankers and the like every time that a hike in income tax is mooted but have switched tack to Corporation Tax now ?
I haven't noticed the likes of Starbucks pulling up sticks in the UK after they were shamed publicly into "having another look" at their tax avoidance schemes in the UK last year, have you ?
As for the rest of your post - congratulations, you're starting to sound like Tony Blair.
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Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:37 am
cod'ead
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JerryChicken wrote:Your last sentence sums it all up.
He also conveniently forgets 3 million on the dole, depressed wage rates and mortgage interest rates of 17% - all courtesy of the Thatcher administration
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:15 am
Lord Elpers
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cod'ead wrote:He also conveniently forgets 3 million on the dole, depressed wage rates and mortgage interest rates of 17% - all courtesy of the Thatcher administration
Here we go again with the smelly fish version of history. We were talking about leaving the country in 1977 because of the Labour inspired recession.
Mrs Thatcher did not come to power until May 1979 in the wake of the terrible "winter of discontent" recession.
The terrible figures you mention were the result of the Labour Callaghan government who mismanaged/destroyed the economy to such an extent that Mrs T won the next three elections which enabled her to turn the country around. History is just repeating itself come to think of it.
Do you deliberately twist the facts or are you just ignorant of them?
Post subject: Re: The Labour party leadership thread
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:27 am
Sal Paradise
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Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
All of this boils down to two things: Wealth generation and an equitable divide up of that wealth. You need to have the right people doing the right job. The idea that increasing the state is somehow going to encourage wealth generation is madness as is letting the private sector divide up the spoils.
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