New account name, same lack of rugby league knowledge.

Gareth Ellis cannot hold a candle to Tony Grimaldi?

not sure about the new account name thing, but he's never put his body on the line like Grimaldi did (if you ever saw him play that is)

do you actually know ANYTHING about rugby ?

yup, I know plenty, been following the game for many years, I can see talent and Ellis had some, but it's gone, he's too pedestrian now, robbing a big wage from FC, my opinion.

Everybody knows who you are.

I saw just about every game Grimaldi played for us, thanks.

If you seriously think that Ellis has never put his body on the line for Hull then you are either blind, stupid or know nothing about rugby league.

Nobody knows who I am, people claim but it's irrelevant anyway.

I don't rate Ellis, it's an opinion, agree or disagree it's no problem, I've seen better paid less and released and worse paid more and retained.

I can only imagine you have been taking some substances to conclude that rubbish.

On the pitch Ellis for hull was twice the player of those two.

I love Ellis but, the big question is, do we get value for money from him?

That's a fair point but to me there's no doubt he is still an outstanding player and it's a privilege to watch he play.

Totally agree, I have just worked out that roughly he has played 56/82 games.

Hopefully playing less minutes at prop next season will see him miss less games.