Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:52 pm
Raggytash
Player Coach
Joined: Jun 08 2008 Posts: 2212 Location: Purgatory
knockersbumpMKII wrote:Can YOU not comprehend English is the question, if you cannot read between the lines then you've zero grasp of understanding the English language and what is being said in a non direct way, wake up FFS!
Was this deliberately ironic?
The words of fools mean nothing to one who resides in the truth.
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:10 pm
Doc Brown
International Star
Joined: Feb 11 2014 Posts: 1073 Location: Hill Valley
Got to say I agree with the ones saying that whilst there have never been any direct accusations aimed at Gentle (or Bomber) there has certainly been inferences that our problems are their fault.
Quote:"There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"Both of them are now making inroads into moulding their own squad for next season and we have some exciting signings confirmed and some close to being confirmed."
Now, that being said, I don't agree that the latest article makes any such inferences. At least not from LR. The closest we get from Radford IMO is:
Quote:"When you look at the squad I inherited to the squad I will be putting out next year, I think everyone can agree that there has been vast improvements,"
Now you can look at that "inherited" part as an inference that he was left with a bad squad when he started out that he was not responsible for. Or you could look at it as LR simply saying he believes he's made improvements on the squad he started out with without any implications being made regarding the state of that squad.
Got to say I agree with the ones saying that whilst there have never been any direct accusations aimed at Gentle (or Bomber) there has certainly been inferences that our problems are their fault.
Quote:"There have been massive issues to address of late which are beyond the public domain that should have been dealt with long ago, and were unfortunately inherited by Lee and Motu Tony. Those issues will take time to sort, but they have already made huge advances along the right path.
"Both of them are now making inroads into moulding their own squad for next season and we have some exciting signings confirmed and some close to being confirmed."
Now, that being said, I don't agree that the latest article makes any such inferences. At least not from LR. The closest we get from Radford IMO is:
Quote:"When you look at the squad I inherited to the squad I will be putting out next year, I think everyone can agree that there has been vast improvements,"
Now you can look at that "inherited" part as an inference that he was left with a bad squad when he started out that he was not responsible for. Or you could look at it as LR simply saying he believes he's made improvements on the squad he started out with without any implications being made regarding the state of that squad.
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:12 pm
bonaire
International Star
Joined: Apr 04 2014 Posts: 7851
Dave K. wrote:I agree with everything said in the article. Where does he blame Gentle? He just says his squad will be better next season than the one he got from Gentle, I have to agree.
I'm no fan if Radford, but you are making a big deal out of a nothing story.
The problem is he said that about this season also
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:00 pm
Bombed Out
International Star
Joined: Feb 21 2012 Posts: 1420
I fully agree with the others on here that this is nothing more then b.s. and spin. Still blaming the previous regime for our current failings and predicament and setting the bar of success very low.
It buys Radford more time and offers optimism for next season to the fans who fall hook line and sinker for the nonsense the club churns out at times. Pearson himself has said to me via e mail that the only mistake He made was appointing gentle so fook knows what he sees in Radford to think he is the messiah. Radford cannot improve himself or the players any further and all this improved recruitment will do is cover and hide his coaching deficiencies with better players and God forbid it buys him a contract extension.
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:34 pm
Staffs FC
Club Coach
Joined: Feb 12 2005 Posts: 13126 Location: East Staffordshire
Bombed Out wrote:I fully agree with the others on here that this is nothing more then b.s. and spin. Still blaming the previous regime for our current failings and predicament and setting the bar of success very low.
It buys Radford more time and offers optimism for next season to the fans who fall hook line and sinker for the nonsense the club churns out at times. Pearson himself has said to me via e mail that the only mistake He made was appointing gentle so fook knows what he sees in Radford to think he is the messiah. Radford cannot improve himself or the players any further and all this improved recruitment will do is cover and hide his coaching deficiencies with better players and God forbid it buys him a contract extension.
Exactly.
If we finish top next year with improved recruitment that'll only be papering over the cracks IMO.
"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - Peter Sterling
Adam Pearson said not wrote:I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:58 pm
ComeOnYouUll
Club Owner
Joined: Sep 25 2003 Posts: 22312
HullFC_1865 wrote:silly apologists, apologising. Radford is useless, we need a quality coach, and Motu can get a taxi with him too
Nobody is apologising for him. Most (maybe even all, except friends and family) supporters think Radford isn't up to the job. However there is zero chance of him leaving soon. He will end the season as head coach and start next season as head coach. Constant hand-wringing and complaining and going over the same points on every thread will not change that.
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:02 pm
HullFC_1865
International Star
Joined: Jun 11 2015 Posts: 165
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Nobody is apologising for him. Most (maybe even all, except friends and family) supporters think Radford isn't up to the job. However there is zero chance of him leaving soon. He will end the season as head coach and start next season as head coach. Constant hand-wringing and complaining and going over the same points on every thread will not change that.
do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously, there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee, simple fact, he promised to walk, he has no honour.
Post subject: Re: Scraping in to top8 'Unacceptable' next year...
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:51 pm
Dave K.
International Board Member
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25966 Location: Back in Hull.
HullFC_1865 wrote:do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously, there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee, simple fact, he promised to walk, he has no honour.
I like you to find me quotes from all these apologists, I've no doubt they are a couple, but if say that 95% of Hull fans think he currently isn't up to the job. The difference is that most don't have a moan about the same thing every single day, making a big deal about a nothing article in which everything said is correct.
He isn't going anywhere, so we might as well get behind the club and hope he can turn it around, I think he needs some help, I'd like someone like Kear as assistant coach.
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