FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Hull FC Ins and Outs



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 56 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:06 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: May 06 2009
Posts: 7414
if yeamans cheap then a 1 yr deal as back up I have no problem with






once a black and white always a black and white COYH

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:12 pm 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25977
Location: Back in Hull.
Not sure hull did it the right way, buts it's the correct decision. He should have signed the deal first time around or get a new agent who should have pushed the deal through.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:04 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Apr 04 2014
Posts: 7859
hull2524 wrote:if yeamans cheap then a 1 yr deal as back up I have no problem with


Yeaman is pants and performance wise doesn't deserve a new contract.
If he was from anywhere else but Hull he would be binned.
Would have more respect for the club if they didn't renew his contract.
Even a one year deal means he is stealing a living from the club

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:38 am 
International Star
New Signing

Joined: Oct 21 2013
Posts: 65
Player for player the ins up to now are as good as if not better then we've had in years, a few young players and the one coming up to the end of his career is still performing pretty well in the NRL, possibly even performing better then the likes of Kearney, Fitz and Shrek were at the time and they ended up top signings.

The outs Lineham is obviously gutting but at least he's been replaced, Rankin a bit odd and Paea was always going to happen. If we lose Shaul it will be a disaster, not just losing a top talent and player but will send out all the wrong messages and might aswell give up with young players. As frustrating as he can be I'd also hope we keep Westerman and maybe get the best out of him, it would be quite hard to argue against if they did accept an offer.

Retained wise personally I'd have a took a gamble on a young back rather then Michaels, be it lower division, promoted from within or Aussie reserve grades, but at least he's solid and maybe a bit more to come. Yeaman has been wonderful over the years and would like to see him get a coaching role, again take a gamble on someone to replace him.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:03 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30493
Just seen tuimavave playing for newcastle. Doesn't look anything like a centre to me. Too slow and not big enough. Looks like what he is, a young half learning his trade but I don't see him as a starting SL centre






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:38 am 
Club Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Mar 29 2005
Posts: 1376
“We’ve been looking at a different dimension in our recruitment and we’ve had to allow some players to leave to give us the capability to change the outlook of the team, but we're pleased with how things are taking shape."
The above is a quote from Radford's article on the FC site. What does it mean? There doesn't seem to be a strategy with the recruitment , certainly there doesn't seem to be a common denominator for either the players going or coming in. Rankin is going largely because he's waiting for a chance in the NRL , Sa because he's been poor , Paea got a better offer at home so none of those fit the comment above. Perhaps Lineham was "unprofessional" in Radford's eyes? Are others going?
Our recruitment for years and years has been based on who's available that we can afford "now" rather than looking to deal with deficiencies in the current and future squad which has resulted in imbalance between youth and experience and a surfeit of talent in some roles and none in others. Radford is now saying there's a plan but what is it? I'm not saying that the individual players signed won't succeed and am happy to see if Carlos can make it over here but as with so many other things at the club the strategy doesn't make sense and things are said that are not seemingly representative of what is actually happening.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:46 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Jul 15 2005
Posts: 29811
Location: West Yorkshire
Carmine Galante wrote:Player for player the ins up to now are as good as if not better then we've had in years, a few young players and the one coming up to the end of his career is still performing pretty well in the NRL, possibly even performing better then the likes of Kearney, Fitz and Shrek were at the time and they ended up top signings.

The outs Lineham is obviously gutting but at least he's been replaced, Rankin a bit odd and Paea was always going to happen. If we lose Shaul it will be a disaster, not just losing a top talent and player but will send out all the wrong messages and might aswell give up with young players. As frustrating as he can be I'd also hope we keep Westerman and maybe get the best out of him, it would be quite hard to argue against if they did accept an offer.

Retained wise personally I'd have a took a gamble on a young back rather then Michaels, be it lower division, promoted from within or Aussie reserve grades, but at least he's solid and maybe a bit more to come. Yeaman has been wonderful over the years and would like to see him get a coaching role, again take a gamble on someone to replace him.


Agree with pretty much all that, apart from the Shaul point. Clearly something's going on here; at its most simplistic it appears he's unhappy to be dropped and his compliance and attitude have been less than expected. I don't think there's a sweeping generalisation that we may as well give up on young players. Crooks and Shaul's (if rumours are to be believed) departures seem to be in the same category though and not the first time young players in Hull have got ahead of themselves. You'd have hoped playing alongside professional role models like Ellis and Mini would help but you can only lead a horse to water. Whether things could have been better managed is obviously debatable, but Radford wants a teamcentric, hard working, good attitude group of players and suspect those who don't comply don't make friends.

I think young players are given chances, although only on a one game at a time basis. Radford's pretty quick to drop players after errors, but if you want players picked on form, maybe that's the consequence. Hopefully the current crop of Logan etc will know the expectations from the start; I wouldn't be writing off any/all future hope they'll be successful.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:09 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30493
Mrs Barista wrote:Agree with pretty much all that, apart from the Shaul point. Clearly something's going on here; at its most simplistic it appears he's unhappy to be dropped and his compliance and attitude have been less than expected. I don't think there's a sweeping generalisation that we may as well give up on young players. Crooks and Shaul's (if rumours are to be believed) departures seem to be in the same category though and not the first time young players in Hull have got ahead of themselves. You'd have hoped playing alongside professional role models like Ellis and Mini would help but you can only lead a horse to water. Whether things could have been better managed is obviously debatable, but Radford wants a teamcentric, hard working, good attitude group of players and suspect those who don't comply don't make friends.

I think young players are given chances, although only on a one game at a time basis. Radford's pretty quick to drop players after errors, but if you want players picked on form, maybe that's the consequence. Hopefully the current crop of Logan etc will know the expectations from the start; I wouldn't be writing off any/all future hope they'll be successful.

You can't just keep shipping out talented youngsters because they show a bit of immaturity. It's up to the club to address the reasons why it's happening, not just move the players on because turning them around is beyond the capabilities of the current set up.






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:19 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Jul 15 2005
Posts: 29811
Location: West Yorkshire
Jake the Peg wrote:You can't just keep shipping out talented youngsters because they show a bit of immaturity. It's up to the club to address the reasons why it's happening, not just move the players on because turning them around is beyond the capabilities of the current set up.

Don't disagree at all, but given Radford went out on a limb to keep Shaul when Gentle was here I'd be surprised if there hadn't been attempts made by Radford, Last, Horne, Ellis to guide him/offer second chances first.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Ins and Outs
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:23 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30493
Mrs Barista wrote:Don't disagree at all, but given Radford went out on a limb to keep Shaul when Gentle was here I'd be surprised if there hadn't been attempts made by Radford, Last, Horne, Ellis to guide him/offer second chances first.

I could attempt to run a 4 minute mile but it's beyond my capabilities






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 56 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next





It is currently Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:49 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: BESTY, ComeOnYouUll, DSJ1983, Faithful One, FC Callum, hullandbroncos, Jake the Peg, mwindass, Theeaststander1, TitanicClown and 225 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:49 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Bradford
the-bearded-
25
0m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64987
4m
TV games not Wire
Wanderer
3684
17m
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
83
43m
Squad for Giants
Matt King's
10
53m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3189
59m
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Point Opener Over Wigan After Scoreless Eighty
Cokey
20
Recent
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
337
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
41694
Recent
HJ Parking
Big lads mat
7
Recent
Film game
Wanderer
7730
Recent
Round 1 - London H
Pyrah123
34
Recent
Leigh h
MadDogg
65
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
Marcus's Bic
3235
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Chris71
125
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64987
2s
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
41694
5s
Film game
Wanderer
7730
5s
Ground Improvements
Big lads mat
404
7s
TV games not Wire
Wanderer
3684
8s
Leigh h
MadDogg
65
12s
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
337
15s
TV Games - Not Hull
Marcus's Bic
3235
16s
Leeds v Wakefield
FlyingScotty
20
17s
Sheffield away
faxcar
7
18s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3189
19s
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Point Opener Over Wigan After Scoreless Eighty
Cokey
20
19s
Transfer Talk V5
rhinosTY
871
20s
Bradford
the-bearded-
25
31s
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
83
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
HJ Parking
Big lads mat
7
TODAY
Squad for Giants
Matt King's
10
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Point Opener Over Wigan After Scoreless Eighty
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Vegas - A travelling supporters guide
DannyT
4
TODAY
Squad Numbers 2025
Deadcowboys1
9
TODAY
State of Rugby League
karetaker
13
TODAY
2025 Goalkickers
Wildthing
2
TODAY
Tyson Smoothy
Trojan Horse
5
TODAY
BBC Games
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
2025 Goal Kickers
Barbed Wire
3
TODAY
Lunatics running the asylum
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
New version of Old Faithful
UllFC
9
TODAY
Andrew Badrock
Binosh
2
TODAY
Digital Season ticket
stpatricks
4
TODAY
Leeds v Wakefield
FlyingScotty
20
TODAY
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
6
TODAY
New Screen
Highlander
3
TODAY
Leigh h
MadDogg
65
TODAY
New RL Podcast - Real Class
Trebor1
6
TODAY
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
TODAY
Post Match Music
Maccbull_Big
11
TODAY
Scurr
dddooommm
20
TODAY
Bradford
the-bearded-
25
TODAY
12th February
Murphy
6
TODAY
Man Utd v Wigan Warriors
NickyKiss
4
TODAY
Fantasy Super League Competition
katevans11
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
294
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
634
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
627
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
678
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
624
Betfred Super League Season Se..
825
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
826
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1464
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1245
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1317
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1489
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1451
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1545
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1925
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2747
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
CC2025 3 Batley24-4Dewsbury
CC2025 3 Crusaders20-26Widnes
CC2025 3 Oldham42-4Barrow
Sat 8th Feb
CC20253 Goole V0-82Wakefield
CC2025 3 Halifax0-14Catalans
CC2025 3 Whitehaven4-44Warrington
CC2025 3 York A6-52Hull FC
CC2025 3 West Hull0-38St.Helens
CC2025 3 Leeds92-0WEST W
Fri 7th Feb
CC2025 3 Sheffield12-48Wigan
CC2025 3 Workington0-60Leigh
CC2025 3 York2-44Hull KR
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Bradford
the-bearded-
25
0m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64987
4m
TV games not Wire
Wanderer
3684
17m
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
83
43m
Squad for Giants
Matt King's
10
53m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3189
59m
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Point Opener Over Wigan After Scoreless Eighty
Cokey
20
Recent
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
337
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
41694
Recent
HJ Parking
Big lads mat
7
Recent
Film game
Wanderer
7730
Recent
Round 1 - London H
Pyrah123
34
Recent
Leigh h
MadDogg
65
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
Marcus's Bic
3235
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Chris71
125
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64987
2s
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
41694
5s
Film game
Wanderer
7730
5s
Ground Improvements
Big lads mat
404
7s
TV games not Wire
Wanderer
3684
8s
Leigh h
MadDogg
65
12s
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
337
15s
TV Games - Not Hull
Marcus's Bic
3235
16s
Leeds v Wakefield
FlyingScotty
20
17s
Sheffield away
faxcar
7
18s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3189
19s
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Point Opener Over Wigan After Scoreless Eighty
Cokey
20
19s
Transfer Talk V5
rhinosTY
871
20s
Bradford
the-bearded-
25
31s
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
83
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
HJ Parking
Big lads mat
7
TODAY
Squad for Giants
Matt King's
10
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Point Opener Over Wigan After Scoreless Eighty
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Vegas - A travelling supporters guide
DannyT
4
TODAY
Squad Numbers 2025
Deadcowboys1
9
TODAY
State of Rugby League
karetaker
13
TODAY
2025 Goalkickers
Wildthing
2
TODAY
Tyson Smoothy
Trojan Horse
5
TODAY
BBC Games
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
2025 Goal Kickers
Barbed Wire
3
TODAY
Lunatics running the asylum
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
New version of Old Faithful
UllFC
9
TODAY
Andrew Badrock
Binosh
2
TODAY
Digital Season ticket
stpatricks
4
TODAY
Leeds v Wakefield
FlyingScotty
20
TODAY
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
6
TODAY
New Screen
Highlander
3
TODAY
Leigh h
MadDogg
65
TODAY
New RL Podcast - Real Class
Trebor1
6
TODAY
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
TODAY
Post Match Music
Maccbull_Big
11
TODAY
Scurr
dddooommm
20
TODAY
Bradford
the-bearded-
25
TODAY
12th February
Murphy
6
TODAY
Man Utd v Wigan Warriors
NickyKiss
4
TODAY
Fantasy Super League Competition
katevans11
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
294
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
634
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
627
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
678
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
624
Betfred Super League Season Se..
825
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
826
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1464
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1245
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1317
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1489
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1451
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1545
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1925
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2747


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.