Crowds are well down this season, the official numbers they announce are a nonsense (includes the passes the SMC have to buy, the passholders who don't turn up etc) and I'm joining the stay away fans by not renewing next season, enough is enough. I simply can't watch another full season of rugby where we can't even do the basics like pass and catch and I'm struggling to see any signs that we'll be any better next year. Rugby league is entertainment at the end of the day and seeing regular poor performances in a near silent stadium not even close to half full just isn't entertaining.

Too many years of hype, spin and false promises (under both Heatherington and Pearson) have wrecked this club. Needs a clean sweep out from boardroom to coach to many of the players.

Spot on, although I do think our expectations are set a bit lower than yours but we swing as badly from world beaters to relegation fodder in a week. Interesting reading another thread on here that says you need the following

1. Pace
2. Coach with pedigree
3. Owner who delivers
4. Pace
5. Good recruitment
6. Pace

We need

1. Size
2. Coach with pedigree
4. Size
5. Good retention
6. Size

We tend to be the mirror image of each other in all aspects except delivery

I think generally speaking this year we have been very realistic about our chances. I don't recall anyone expecting us to finish any higher than 6th. But we expected progress and I see very little of that. Same old mistakes. Same old unprofessional performances like last night. (Forget how good Wigan are, we made it incredibly easy for them). Littered with the odd spark of something potentially good. Sadly the contrast is often there within the space of a match. Leeds at home 12 - 0 at half time and then boom. All destroyed within 5 minutes of the break.

The rivalry with Rovers would be incidental if we eradicated the extremes of our performances. Things I will add that AP stated would never happen again under his watch. 4 years on........

No.

It's so very easy to suggest Pearson has ruined the club and should go. Sensible alternatives, such as the small matter of identifying a wealthy benefactor waiting to take on a club losing money are a bit trickier. Let's say Pearson needs to break even and to do so cut the wage bill by 30%. Should he be transparent with fans about this and realistic ambitions of top 8 max? Or "spin"? I suspect he's in a no-win situation here.

A few weeks ago I was out with some mates and was talking about Hull, I said I am going to Hull more out of loyalty then enjoyment and unfortunately I still stick my that. After the Wakefield away game I decided I wouldn't go out of my way to watch Hull, by mistake I booked tickets to a comedy night for last night, I rightly decided to go to that over Hull despite having a pass ( I offered my pass for free to a few people, all turned it down) and unless things change and we start performing consistently I can't see me getting a pass next year.

Last night looked a nothing game to Hull, they had qualified fur the 8s and that was enough, seriously lacking intensity compared to Wigan, I fear this will be the pattern for the rest of the season.

My thoughts exactly! I hate the KC .
It is too nice , too sanitised.
Give me a stadium with terraces any day . I wish the Boulevard could have been modernised into a Haliwell Jones style ground .
All seater Stadiums create no atmosphere for RL .

I always argue Hull are the most loyal fans in RL. Every GF, every CCF, every international, every tour I have been on there are probably more Hull fans there than any other apart from the respective finalists. Unfortunately you have more than your share of muppets.

having read your forum on numerous occasions i would say you are probably the most fickle!

Don't think there was one called that wasn't forward, I sit pretty much on half way and they're easy to spot.