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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:38 pm 
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airliebird9 wrote:Surely not. All fans must want the team to win every week regardless of who is coach and what they think of him???

You would be wrong.

However they do deny it. It usually starts off with 'I'd love him to succeed, but' or 'nobody wanted him to do well more than me, but'.

There's probably half a dozen posters i'll credit with being consistent, but no more than that.

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:42 pm 
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*1865* wrote:You would be wrong.


Can a person that wants his team to lose be called a fan?? I dont think so.....






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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:43 pm 
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airliebird9 wrote:Can a person that wants his team to lose be called a fan?? I dont think so.....

Well.....

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:03 pm 
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*1865* wrote:Don't think anybody started off wanting Radford to fail, but plenty went far too early on him and would rather see him fail and save face.


*1865* wrote:However they do deny it. It usually starts off with 'I'd love him to succeed, but' or 'nobody wanted him to do well more than me, but'.


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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:55 pm 
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WIZEB wrote:Nah, not really.
I had no dislike for PG just didn't think he had it in him.
Don't know if Lee has either but him and his team are giving it a good shot.
The trouble with you and others is that you don't actually want him to make it.
All a bit sad really.


But Gentle took us to Wembley and despite an horrendous injury list at times we finished sixth.People may criticise some of the signings Gentle made but the Wembley appearance alone put a lot of money back into the club.
Radford has had his own squad this season, we struggled to make the top eight yet some fans seem to see that as progress.
its fine being competitive on the field but I want a coach who can see the deficiencies on the field and rectify them so that we fans can see progress on the field.I expect us to win matches whoever we are playing especially at home.
With Radford we have not seen progress.he is also guilty of false loyalty to certain players like Yeaman.
It has taken an injury to Yeaman and a young rookie with a bit of pace and good footwork to show just how poor he has been for most of the season yet Radford played him.That to me is not the sign of a good coach.
Whilst I will always support the club my opinion since his appointment has always been we will never be a top team with Radford in charge

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:51 am 
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airliebird9 wrote:Why not knock Radford??

The club have the structure, the facilities, the finance and a chairman that will spend money. Therefore the squad we have that you say is 'not great' is down to who?? Who's job is it to build a squad that can finish in the top 4?? The coach maybe :IDEA:


Do you think that Mini,Pryce,Sneyd have been bad signings? do you think that Radford would not have brought others in if he could have.The fact is that some want him to fail and getting in the eight has been a huge disappointment for many .The Derby showed what spirit Radford has achieved when in the past losing Ellis and Pryce early would have seen us fold.Radford get flack when we lose but never gets credit when we win and again for many that would be a real No No.Its a real shame that after a good Derby win and top eight secured we still have negativity ..says it all really

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:56 am 
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bonaire wrote:Radford has had his own squad this season, we struggled to make the top eight yet some fans seem to see that as progress.

To be clear, some fans see that as progress on last year. Which it is. I haven't seen a single poster suggest that this season represents progress over Gentle's last season - at most it's been suggested that we're about at the same level. However, there has been some interesting stats posted on our points return that indicates we could well end up with a superior return overall this season.

I never wanted Radford in the first place. I'm still of the opinion that we need a better coach. But he clearly is getting some things right and not giving credit where it's due is plain dishonest IMO.






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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:20 am 
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Kosh wrote:To be clear, some fans see that as progress on last year. Which it is. I haven't seen a single poster suggest that this season represents progress over Gentle's last season - at most it's been suggested that we're about at the same level. However, there has been some interesting stats posted on our points return that indicates we could well end up with a superior return overall this season.

I never wanted Radford in the first place. I'm still of the opinion that we need a better coach. But he clearly is getting some things right and not giving credit where it's due is plain dishonest IMO.


Seems about right and you have the nous to show a bit of honest objectivity.
Those who have railroaded themselves from the get-go haven't the same ability.

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:59 am 
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hokeydokey wrote: Do you think that Mini,Pryce,Sneyd have been bad signings?

Mini has being superb, Pryce has exceeded what I thought he would do, Sneyd hasn't justified his £100k pricetag and whilst he has clearly done some brilliant stuff, he was average in the first half of the season and still his open field kicking isn't as good as expected.
hokeydokey wrote:The fact is that some want him to fail and getting in the eight has been a huge disappointment for many .

Please name, names, frankly that's nonsense.
hokeydokey wrote: The Derby showed what spirit Radford has achieved when in the past losing Ellis and Pryce early would have seen us fold.

Seriously, there have being numerous games were we just folded, if we'd had the endeavor and heart shown as there was Friday we'd be in a much higher position than we are.
hokeydokey wrote:Radford get flack when we lose but never gets credit when we win and again for many that would be a real No No. ..says it all really

Again, this is complete & utter hogwash and totally unfounded
hokeydokey wrote:Its a real shame that after a good Derby win and top eight secured we still have negativity

Yes, there is still negativity and do you know why? Because we are going to struggle to make the play-offs as we've struggled to get into the top 8, large parts of the season have seen us playing bang average attacking rugby and we've been consistantly inconsistant. The owner is merging our academy, we're losing yet another young/quality player, we've lost our talisman captain, probably permenantly.
But yeah, Radford is a fecking amazingly inspiring coach :roll:

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