I can't be the only one getting annoyed by the attitude of (what appears like) the majority of our supporters towards us reaching the Super 8s?
Pressure off? I'm not sure about you, but I don't think finishing 7th/8th is considered good enough and certainly don't think the pressure is off. They still haven't achieved yet.
We're 2 points (likely 4 after today's results) off 4th and having a shot at Old Trafford. Top four has been the goal for many years. We've got 8 games to try and get there. I certainly don't think the pressure is off, and if that's the attitude people take, it's gonna be a painful eight weeks.
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I think everyone is just glad we made the 8, but you are right we need to kick on from here, Thursday is a massive game lose and our season is just about over, we need to win as many games as possible.
The pressure is off in that nobody expects us to trouble the top four and we will be widely expected to remain in 7th. We will be outsiders in pretty much every game.
ComeOnYouUll wrote:The pressure is off in that nobody expects us to trouble the top four and we will be widely expected to remain in 7th. We will be outsiders in pretty much every game.
Not sure what's so hard to understand about that?
So we shouldn't bother trying then? No pressure to move forward, let's just stick with 7th?
The pressure is still on. We need to enter every game with a must-win attitude, not a pressure-off attitude.
Why aren't we expected to trouble the top four anyway? We've beaten 5 of the seven sides in the top eight this year (only losing by 1 point against one of the other two with a game still to play against them). There are no excuses. We are more than capable of making the top four and the pressure is still on to make the season meaningful.
Wellsy13 wrote:So we shouldn't bother trying then? No pressure to move forward, let's just stick with 7th?
The pressure is still on. We need to enter every game with a must-win attitude, not a pressure-off attitude.
Why aren't we expected to trouble the top four anyway? We've beaten 5 of the seven sides in the top eight this year (only losing by 1 point against one of the other two with a game still to play against them). There are no excuses. We are more than capable of making the top four and the pressure is still on to make the season meaningful.
You have kind of answered your own question haven't you? We are not expected to trouble the top 4 because we haven't done for donkeys years?
Pressure off in the sense nobody expects us to get any higher than we currently are. Nobody being other clubs and their fans, even some of our fans etc.
Pressure off doesn't/shouldn't equate to a lack of effort or aspiration to do better and I don't think it will with the players.
Personally with the loss of Ellis and Pryce I think it's a big ask to make top 4, doesn't stop me wanting it to happen.
The pressure is always off when your the underdog, the term is used loosely IMO and doesn't reflect what the players and team will be doing on the pitch.
For example the pressure is off KR in the Semi, nobody expects them to win, except their own club and fans, but you can guarantee every KR player will give 100% to try and win it.
If it makes you happy it can't be that bad - Sheryl Crow 1996.
Jimmy Carr wrote:You have kind of answered your own question haven't you? We are not expected to trouble the top 4 because we haven't done for donkeys years?
How have I answered that? I don't see the relevance of past seasons. Cas hasn't troubled the top four for donkeys before last year.
Quote:Pressure off in the sense nobody expects us to get any higher than we currently are. Nobody being other clubs and their fans, even some of our fans etc.
Pressure off doesn't/shouldn't equate to a lack of effort or aspiration to do better and I don't think it will with the players.
Personally with the loss of Ellis and Pryce I think it's a big ask to make top 4, doesn't stop me wanting it to happen.
The pressure is always off when your the underdog, the term is used loosely IMO and doesn't reflect what the players and team will be doing on the pitch.
There is less pressure being the underdog, but the pressure is certainly not off. We still have points to play for and a target to reach. People talking about resting players and just playing youngsters because we haven't got much to play for are completely giving up on finishing the season on a high.
Quote:For example the pressure is off KR in the Semi, nobody expects them to win, except their own club and fans, but you can guarantee every KR player will give 100% to try and win it.
The pressure certainly isn't off KR. There's less pressure, but to say the pressure is off a club in a semi final where they haven't anything else to achieve (other than avoiding relegation) and against a side they've beaten already this season is bloody rubbish. This is their only chance to change the season from that of failure to that of success. There's loads of pressure!
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Pressure shouldn't be off. We are only 3/4 through the season with the chance now to make the top 4 and the GF.
If the players and coach don't believe that's possible and don't enter every game in the S8 with that aim then wtf is the point of anything?
But if the fans don't have that expectation either "because we've never challenged for top 4 for years" then what hope is there that the club will set the expectation that the GF should be the aim?
Jesus wept. If you expect mediocrity you're likely to get less than that. And we will, looking at the thoughts of some.
I would expect Radford to be setting out a whole new stall for this final crucial test. A clean slate with one goal. We know what we're starting with. The raw materials don't include Ellis and Pryce. Or Yeaman. So be it. The strategy for Top 4 is built around what we do have. If Pearson expects anything less then we may as well not bother getting out of bed.
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I think the whole pressure off thing has been blown out of proportion!
Making the 8 was the first step, any thoughts of scrapping for relegation have now gone. Added to the fact nobody (not even the most optimistic fan) expected a top 4 finish.
I think it just means the players can now go out and express themselves and actually it may work in Hull's favour.
At no point did using the term pressure off suggest the players now kick back for some R & R and sod it if we lose the next 7!!
The overall pressure to constantly strive to do better should always be there - the pressure valve of not being in a relegation scrap has though undoubtedly been released, you saw that in the fans and players reaction at full time on Friday.
If it makes you happy it can't be that bad - Sheryl Crow 1996.
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