Joined: Jan 30 2003 Posts: 2476 Location: South Cave, East Yorkshire
I think it is more straightforward. Council at the meeting with the FA ask whether the Allams have stated its for exclusive use. If they have, they have evidence to prove a breach.
Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 7735 Location: Here there and everywhere
weaver93 wrote:My interpretation of this situation is, that if a dispute between the two parties exist,(regardless of the auditor's recommendation).
The FA will reject the soccer club's proposal for Tier 2 status.
Therefore the Council do not need to take legal action, only if the Allam's still refuse to remove the 3g pitch.
Also an extract from The Dentist's Diary...
l contacted a Councillor close to the action who sent me an E mail that explains the Council’s position and he agreed that I could enclose an extract from it here for your information.
“The reason that the council are holding off is that should the Allam’s fail to upgrade the academy they will take up the pitch, but if they were successful we would then instigate proceedings to have it removed which is very expensive, people need to remember this is public money and we need to be mindful of that, so if by waiting a few weeks we can resolve this, why would we start (Lengthy) and expensive court proceedings? As far as the question of those political contributions, they were to the National party not Labour (Hull) we have had not one word from the national party on this, It has never even been mentioned in passing, to sum up, if we can get to where we need to be cost free, we will take that option every time”
The council should not be responsible for the cost of removal of the 3G pitch.
If spending public money on a legal case to protect the use of a public asset is not in the public interest, then there it little point in having a local government organisation.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29811 Location: West Yorkshire
Mick Cranes Sidestep wrote:I think it is more straightforward. Council at the meeting with the FA ask whether the Allams have stated its for exclusive use. If they have, they have evidence to prove a breach.
Having exclusive use is a requirement of Category 2 status, which the auditors have recommended, right?
Didn't the council supposedly write to the FA to say city didn't have exclusive use of the arena already? Surely that can;t be misinterpreted by the FA
Mrs Barista wrote:Having exclusive use is a requirement of Category 2 status, which the auditors have recommended, right?
The rules allow the rules to be varied if appropriate.
The only rule that matters is whether Hull City have a valid agreement to rent the property. If the Council say they haven't and will be taking legal action then no academy.
weaver93 wrote:My interpretation of this situation is, that if a dispute between the two parties exist,(regardless of the auditor's recommendation).
The FA will reject the soccer club's proposal for Tier 2 status.
Therefore the Council do not need to take legal action, only if the Allam's still refuse to remove the 3g pitch.
Also an extract from The Dentist's Diary...
l contacted a Councillor close to the action who sent me an E mail that explains the Council’s position and he agreed that I could enclose an extract from it here for your information.
“The reason that the council are holding off is that should the Allam’s fail to upgrade the academy they will take up the pitch, but if they were successful we would then instigate proceedings to have it removed which is very expensive, people need to remember this is public money and we need to be mindful of that, so if by waiting a few weeks we can resolve this, why would we start (Lengthy) and expensive court proceedings? As far as the question of those political contributions, they were to the National party not Labour (Hull) we have had not one word from the national party on this, It has never even been mentioned in passing, to sum up, if we can get to where we need to be cost free, we will take that option every time”
The Council may still need to take action if the SMC refuses to repair any damage to the floor caused by the installation of the pitch and the temporary flooring for the squash.
I assume the Council are awaiting the FA's verdict, which should state the Football club are in dispute with the Landlord,therefore Tier 2 cannot be approved,until dispute is settled.
Worst case scenario,FA accept approval, ,then Council start legal proceedings.
I assume the Council are awaiting the FA's verdict, which should state the Football club are in dispute with the Landlord,therefore Tier 2 cannot be approved,until dispute is settled.
Worst case scenario,FA accept approval, ,then Council start legal proceedings.
I assume the Council are awaiting the FA's verdict, which should state the Football club are in dispute with the Landlord,therefore Tier 2 cannot be approved,until dispute is settled.
Worst case scenario,FA accept approval, ,then Council start legal proceedings.
Thanks for the update. For all the money and resources in football, they seem to work at a snail's pace.
I assume the Council are awaiting the FA's verdict, which should state the Football club are in dispute with the Landlord,therefore Tier 2 cannot be approved,until dispute is settled.
Worst case scenario,FA accept approval, ,then Council start legal proceedings.
Thanks for the update. For all the money and resources in football, they seem to work at a snail's pace.
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