Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:12 am
Kosh
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Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
Dave K. wrote:I use my eyes as evidence, he is a better Centre than Yeaman and Micheals IMO and could be argued about Sa (Who after a good start to the season has disappointed at centre and is often injured).
I'm not sure what evidence you want?
Same evidence I use, and my eyes saw one terrific season and nothing since.
During that one season he was definitely far better than Yeaman and Micheals, but neither of those should be used as any kind of yardstick. During his second season he was barely any better than Yeaman which is a pretty stinging indictment. On current evidence both Talanoa and Sa (when fit) are better centres. Logan I'm not convinced will make it but then I'm far from convinced that Crooks will either.
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Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:44 am
*1865*
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Joined: Jul 25 2008 Posts: 14158
westdock boy in oz wrote:3rd grade? The reserve grade as such was discarded years ago, when the u/20's was introduced.(Holden cup) Any player who doesn't make the 17 for first grade plays in the NSW cup if he is too old for the u/20's. Parra use Wentworthville as their NSW cup team, - Chris Sandow was dropped & played a few weeks ago, although you presumably think the fans of any super league club that signs him will `go mental' By denigrating players from the NSW comp' I assume (maybe wrongly) you don't watch the NSW cup, IMO from the games I've seen the standard is pretty close to the bottom half of Super League & looking at at our league positions last season & this, ? ? ? ?
But he's not getting in the Magpies team, hence he's coming back. Friend of mine has watched him a few times over there and his assessment was - 'can't believe this guy is a rugby player'.
Magpies are Parra's reserve grade and he can't get in that. That makes him 3rd grade, technically.
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:59 am
Stanley Unwin
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Joined: Apr 10 2006 Posts: 1782
Good luck to the lad but I fear he'll be another Craig Hall. He'll score some spectacular tries for whomever he signs for but he'll make some shocking calls in defence.
Cant see any coach getting that out of his game but he's still young so might prove me wrong.
Post subject: Re: Ben Crooks in Super League return – but NOT to Hull FC
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:14 pm
Erik the not red
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Joined: Jan 29 2010 Posts: 865
Stanley Unwin wrote:Good luck to the lad but I fear he'll be another Craig Hall. He'll score some spectacular tries for whomever he signs for but he'll make some shocking calls in defence.
Cant see any coach getting that out of his game but he's still young so might prove me wrong.
I agree with the possible Craig Hall scenario. In the end its Hull's call and on more evidence than most/all of the posters here have available they have decided that he won't reach the higher levels of the game. They may be wrong of course but I very much doubt sentiment, either positive or negative, entered into the decision.
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