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 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:45 pm 
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Staffs FC wrote:You may not subscribe to the fact that it takes time for creative players to settle (especially two thrown in together at the same time) - the inference being I guess that they would strike up an instant understanding of each other and their new team mates in match conditions. I would think it normally takes time.


That's not what I said. At all.

Staffs FC wrote:It's not just that though that has contributed to the upturn. For example we're no longer selecting three hookers in the team due to the fact that our best players are now available. Incidentally that will obviously help on the practice field as well as on game day. The practice field with half a squad missing isn't going to produce the best conditions for 'creating options' come the match day. Allied to all of this players move in and out of form - in the last few games we have had more players playing to their potential.


That's closer to what I said, that it isn't the only factor, and furthermore I don't personally even think it is the major one. The major factor has been that we have dramatically changed our attitude to how we play. We are committing more runners/options for the ball carrier, running from deeper and staggering the attacking line, backing up breaks in better numbers, looking to promote offloads more often, moving the ball wider more quickly, playing the ball a bit more quickly, varying which side we attack with more effectively and with more purpose, generally playing with more variety and intelligence. Pretty much all of the things lots of us have been crying out for for a long time.

Staffs FC wrote:As you said earlier long may it continue - we're far from smelling of roses as of yet in terms of the table. Let's hope the fans who decided against attending will get back on the bandwagon and the whole club can move forward together.


Bandwagon is an unfair term, IMO. It suggests people will go back because we are winning, which is not always the case. I stopped going after the Catalan game, which we did actually win but it was still poor quality entertainment with near enough a full-strength side It then wasn't a few wins that got me back (or I'd have been back after the Widnes game), it was the change in approach since. I'll go every week as long as the team make the effort and try to play rugby. Trophy contention would be a bonus.

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 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts
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carl_spackler wrote:That's not what I said. At all.

That's closer to what I said, that it isn't the only factor, and furthermore I don't personally even think it is the major one. The major factor has been that we have dramatically changed our attitude to how we play. We are committing more runners/options for the ball carrier, running from deeper and staggering the attacking line, backing up breaks in better numbers, looking to promote offloads more often, moving the ball wider more quickly, playing the ball a bit more quickly, varying which side we attack with more effectively and with more purpose, generally playing with more variety and intelligence. Pretty much all of the things lots of us have been crying out for for a long time.

Bandwagon is an unfair term, IMO. It suggests people will go back because we are winning, which is not always the case. I stopped going after the Catalan game, which we did actually win but it was still poor quality entertainment with near enough a full-strength side It then wasn't a few wins that got me back (or I'd have been back after the Widnes game), it was the change in approach since. I'll go every week as long as the team make the effort and try to play rugby. Trophy contention would be a bonus.

I don't know how long you've been a fan but fans generally come back when their team wins regularly, regardless of quality,Brian Smiths tactics were hardly enterprising but the support came because of good results,you must be a rare fan who would not watch your own winning team because of a lack of entertainment but fair play it's your choice.






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 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:55 pm 
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dayvoz wrote:I don't know how long you've been a fan but fans generally come back when their team wins regularly, regardless of quality,Brian Smiths tactics were hardly enterprising but the support came because of good results,you must be a rare fan who would not watch your own winning team because of a lack of entertainment but fair play it's your choice.


I know there will always be that element, I just think it's unfair to label it as mainly that given how little success we've seen for so long and how long attendances have relatively held up despite that. It's taken a lot for some to finally say enough is enough, not just losing a few games.

I started going regularly around the start of the Hull Sharks days. We were s**t, but it was fun. Flowing rugby to self destruct in 5 minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:28 pm 
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Just for clarity we're all on the same bandwagon - it's just that some people stay on it through thick and thin while others get off sometimes then get back on later. For some people getting off is not an option. For others it's the only option. It's always been the case and always will be.






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 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:18 pm 
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We can't get on a bandwagon because we are FC and we don't need instruments to make some noise. Now we've changed tactics, gained confidence and had our skill players click I'm on the shoutyourheadoffcart.

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Another monster performance from him last night.

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Sebasteeno wrote:Another monster performance from him last night.


His offloads really add another dimension to our attack.






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