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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:15 pm 
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fun time frankie wrote:And all three of them players were slagged off for the last three seasons they played at your club one of them still on a regular basis and regards form going into a derby I remember our 42-6 win you were on a long unbeaten run and we'd won one in eight or something similar
... 2 games, yes, a long unbeaten run.






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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:16 pm 
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fun time frankie wrote:And all three of them players were slagged off for the last three seasons they played at your club one of them still on a regular basis and regards form going into a derby I remember our 42-6 win you were on a long unbeaten run and we'd won one in eight or something similar

I have no idea what your point is, but you've spelt Einstein wrong in your sig.

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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:20 pm 
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Yeah I know someone else told me I was answering L and I about testimonials for Horne and yeamo saying the hull fans slagged them off in the latter stages of there career ok






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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:22 pm 
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And that you can analyse form but it doesn't really mean anything we've got injuries in the pack your backs are slow it's all irrelevant at the end of the day






einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result

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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
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fun time frankie wrote:And that you can analyse form but it doesn't really mean anything we've got injuries in the pack your backs are slow it's all irrelevant at the end of the day


Clearly what matters is how the teams perform on the day and anything can happen over 80 minutes. But form isn't such a bad indicator of how they'll perform and doesn't always, or even typically 'go out the window', which seems to be the conventional thinking.

42-6 is a memorable and striking exception rather than being representative.

What our perceptions and fallible memories tell us isn't always very reliable. Especially around something emotionally charged.






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:02 pm 
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The only time I've been confident of winning a derby we got beat 36-6 so until we're winning by 20 with 5 minutes to go I will never be confident of winning






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 Post subject: Re: Magic Weekend - The Derby
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fun time frankie wrote:The only time I've been confident of winning a derby we got beat 36-6 so until we're winning by 20 with 5 minutes to go I will never be confident of winning


There's usually not much cause for confidence on either side, as there's usually not all that much between the teams.

To me, form looks like a weak indicator, especially for a one-off encounter, but an indicator nonetheless. so I'd pedantically take issue with l and i's claim that history has shown it to be irrelevant.

Where I'd completely agree with him is that the team that plays smart and minimises errors will have much the better chance. If your team has been playing dozy error-strewn rugby in recent weeks, then there's a more legitimate fear that you'll carry on in the same vein. If they've been disciplined and tactically astute, then there's greater cause for... Not confidence perhaps, but certainly optimism.

Hull certainly seem to be much improved from the rather toothless outfit Rovers beat earlier in the season.
I think we're doing okay. I worry about our middle and if you're struggling to control the ruck, you'll tend to give away penalties. But we are, generally a bit smarter and mentally tougher than in recent years imo, so we've a chance, if we can stop them getting a roll on.






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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PAC wrote:I'm betting on FC to win #lump

Reading this thread they have had 3 players that have had testimonials to our sort of 1 for netherton so it's game set and match :ROCKS:

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