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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:20 am 
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Lineham + Naughton as our speed merchants. Sa + Talanoa as hulking big centres who will just run straight over the top of the opposition before putting their winger away.

IMHO Yeaman is currently robbing a place in the squad - he should be playing for his position and not just a shoe-in because he's bezzies with Radford.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:56 am 
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Chris71 wrote:For me Lineham if fit should play and Naughton should keep his place after his performance.

The two players who should be feeling the pressure to perform and show some attacking threat are Yeaman & Michaels as their try scoring return this season is pitiful.

Yes Lineham made a couple of mistakes but if he is going to punish players for mistakes and drop them, then it should count for all of players.

Yeaman made no attempt to whatsoever to deal with Ratchfords kick or the advancing Monaghan, also against Cas there were two or 3 occasions that he came out the line and missed the player leaving a massive gap which so nearly cost us dearly. As for Michaels he's ok but thats it nothing more (waste of an oversee's spot imo) and doesnt offer what Lineham or Naughton do. The same goes for Yeaman when comparing him with Talanoa & Sa.

Would much rather see Lineham & Naughton as our wingers with Sa & Talanoa as the centres and think that is our strongest backline both in an attacking sense and defensively.


Perfectly summed up.

Number 6, I agree with everything you've said on this thread too.

It's as laughable to drop Lineham for mistakes made as it was Shaul. These players have won matches. Has Yeaman this season? Michaels? Lineham and Shaul should be at the back of the "dropped" queue, any coach worth his salt would see that. So I can only assume it's for off-field reasons - I would hazard a guess at attitude. Better ways to handle that if you're a good manager rather than cutting off your nose. Just my assumption, could be wrong.






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 Post subject: Re: Squad For Saints
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.... or maybe his hamstring injury is still troubling him.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: Squad For Saints
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:18 am 
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WormInHand wrote:
Chris71 wrote:For me Lineham if fit should play and Naughton should keep his place after his performance.

The two players who should be feeling the pressure to perform and show some attacking threat are Yeaman & Michaels as their try scoring return this season is pitiful.

Yes Lineham made a couple of mistakes but if he is going to punish players for mistakes and drop them, then it should count for all of players.

Yeaman made no attempt to whatsoever to deal with Ratchfords kick or the advancing Monaghan, also against Cas there were two or 3 occasions that he came out the line and missed the player leaving a massive gap which so nearly cost us dearly. As for Michaels he's ok but thats it nothing more (waste of an oversee's spot imo) and doesnt offer what Lineham or Naughton do. The same goes for Yeaman when comparing him with Talanoa & Sa.

Would much rather see Lineham & Naughton as our wingers with Sa & Talanoa as the centres and think that is our strongest backline both in an attacking sense and defensively.


Perfectly summed up.

Number 6, I agree with everything you've said on this thread too.

It's as laughable to drop Lineham for mistakes made as it was Shaul. These players have won matches. Has Yeaman this season? Michaels? Lineham and Shaul should be at the back of the "dropped" queue, any coach worth his salt would see that. So I can only assume it's for off-field reasons - I would hazard a guess at attitude. Better ways to handle that if you're a good manager rather than cutting off your nose. Just my assumption, could be wrong.


To an extent I could understand the Shaul one as with having Rankin to slot in we don't really lose out in the FB role as both players offer geniune threat with their pace even though both a slightly different players.

But for me it really is a no brainer that our best backline both defensively and as an attacking threat would be that of Lineham & Naughton on the wing with Sa & Talanoa in the centres. This is based purely on what each player brings.

Both Sa & Talanoa have an ability to break tackles, make good yards and put a winger into space but also chip in with trys of their own and both have shown theyre pretty good defensively. Yeaman defensively in the main is good but as an attacking threat he is now lacking.

Lineham & Naughton both have pace and physically strong again can make decent yards and score trys as has been proven by their records this season so far both short or long range. Michaels again is ok but is seemingly more lightweigh than both Lineham & Naughton and has yet to show is is capable of matching the scoring ability that the other two have shown. Defensively he is really any better than Lineham to be fair?

So I can only hope it is geniunely because Lineham is injured and not being risked but Radford didnt help himself with the 'Shaulgate' affair.






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 Post subject: Re: Squad For Saints
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dayvoz wrote:Leeds score tries with ease it seems and IMO the best centre in the league Joel Moon has only scored 3 tries and didn't score his first try until the 8th game of the season(ever present in the team),would you have dropped him??


Moon has created a hell of a lot more for his wingers than yeaman an d michaels

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ccs wrote:.... or maybe his hamstring injury is still troubling him.

Is it? Then Hull should declare him injured. Unless they're worried they'll be corrected again on social media :) .

A statement should be made as this sort of speculation causes damage.






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 Post subject: Re: Squad For Saints
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:33 am 
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WormInHand wrote:Is it? Then Hull should declare him injured. Unless they're worried they'll be corrected again on social media :) .

A statement should be made as this sort of speculation causes damage.


So the club should keep St Helens fully informed on who will and who won't be playing.

No mention of Ellis this week either - I'm sure saints game plan will be based on him playing.

The simple solution is to say nothing, which is what the club are doing. Obvious long term injuries are a different matter.

Then you won't need to speculate the worst case scenario every time.

..... and maybe Lineham will be playing. Who knows?






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ccs wrote:So the club should keep St Helens fully informed on who will and who won't be playing.

No mention of Ellis this week either - I'm sure saints game plan will be based on him playing.

The simple solution is to say nothing, which is what the club are doing. Obvious long term injuries are a different matter.

Then you won't need to speculate the worst case scenario every time.

..... and maybe Lineham will be playing. Who knows?

:lol: Well he, Radford, started it! :CURTAIN:

Did himself no favours by announcing Shaul's 'injury'. Guess he wasn't bothered about tipping off Warrington?

Anyway, I guess Saints won't be relying on any injury announcements regarding Lineham to keep themselves informed - he isn't in the squad. :D






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Interested to know what the reaction would be if Yeaman or Michaels had dropped as many balls on their own goal line as Talanoa had,several leading to tries.






eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.

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WormInHand wrote:Anyway, I guess Saints won't be relying on any injury announcements regarding Lineham to keep themselves informed - he isn't in the squad. :D
But it doesn't mean he can't be picked.

...and maybe Shaul is included because Rankin is a doubt?






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