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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:28 pm 
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Jake the Peg wrote:Is he one of the voices in your head?


He said he'd have his tooth done as well because the fans are sick of him hiding behind it.






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 Post subject: Re: just wondering ?
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Staffs FC wrote:He said he'd have his tooth done as well because the fans are sick of him hiding behind it.

I thought it was the gap he was hiding behind? Quite a feat






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Jake the Peg wrote:Who has been suggesting everything's changed because of fan pressure?

Some people just like to make stuff up. Not a single person has suggested fan pressure has played any part whatsoever. It's laughable really.

The way I see it Radford has allowed/empowered the players to take a few more risks with the ball in recent weeks. It looks like the players have really bought into it and confidence is growing. Whatever the reason for this change I welcome it and think Radford deserves some credit for making the change.






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Robbo4 wrote:Some people just like to make stuff up. Not a single person has suggested fan pressure has played any part whatsoever. It's laughable really.

The way I see it Radford has allowed/empowered the players to take a few more risks with the ball in recent weeks. It looks like the players have really bought into it and confidence is growing. Whatever the reason for this change I welcome it and think Radford deserves some credit for making the change.

Maybe they are playing to win now instead of playing not to lose

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Jake the Peg wrote:Who has been suggesting everything's changed because of fan pressure?


Bumpy mentioned it as a possibility.

KnockersBumpMKII wrote:BUT I'm not so blind as some, there either an outside influence on how & why we've so rapidly changed what we were doing in attack or the coach has had an epiphany on the back of what fans have said






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Robbo4 wrote:Some people just like to make stuff up. Not a single person has suggested fan pressure has played any part whatsoever. It's laughable really.


Really?

Robbo4 wrote:We play really boring uninspiring rugby so the fans get fed up and start to call for the coach to sort it out or go. The coach eventually appears to change philosophy with the game plan.

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Jake the Peg wrote:Who has been suggesting everything's changed because of fan pressure?


I'm wondering that, too.

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carl_spackler wrote:I'm wondering that, too.

Why? There's been two examples quoted so far.

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Typical Hull FC: blame the fans when we are losing but can't give credit to the boo boys when we win.

I think what has happened is that the coaching staff have finally found a way to get us playing better. They have been watching the same dross as we have but haven't managed to do anything about it. Now they have. It wasn't the threat of a petition that suddenly made Radford realize that we were losing games. Its just that what he was doing wasn't working.

Now, fingers crossed that we continue to show improvements. I can't help but feel that our new confidence is fragile.

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*1865* wrote:Really?



Nowhere does that claim that the first point influenced the other. In fact in the original post in full, it clearly identifies a team meeting as the likely reason, not fan pressure.

The original post was asking where the Radford critics are now that we've played well, in a goading manner possibly implying that those critics are/were wrong. It was the latest in a growing theme over the last 2 weeks seemingly wanting to have a go at the fans who are/were vocally unhappy with how we were playing. Robbo's post very sensibly pointed out the bizarre (non-)logic of questioning why those fans are no longer complaining now that things have changed and implying that change and improvement happening is somehow proof that they were wrong.

It's very simple, those unhappy with how we've been playing have had nothing to be unhappy about for the last 2 weeks. This doesn't mean they were wrong prior to that, it in fact (with notable exceptions) means that they are being entirely fair and rational in their assessments and not stubbornly ripping in when it is not justified. The fact that there isn't instant gushing praise is merely because 2 games is a very small sample size to be convinced that it is not just another false dawn.

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