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| It does make you think though. I remember my first job. We used to have a big RAC roadmap up in the corner of the office which was so old three quarters of the M6 motorway simply wasn't there.
When you think of the truly massive building projects we embarked upon immediately in the wake of WWII (when we were all but broke financially):
The motorway system.
NHS infrastructure.
Nuclear power stations (specifically Windscale).
The building of schools and polytechnics.
Airports.
etc. etc. etc.
I mean, they're constantly raving about the benefits afforded by the HS2 project. But HS2 is practically dwarfed in scale next to the entirety of the above.
And think of all we gained from the above.
It's a very similar story in the United States. Right now they are facing the costs of renewing the colossal feats of infrastructure which were initiated by the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"I know but I thought it was firmly back on the cards?'"
I've not heard anything official from within LCC, but a new Labour leader of the council has just been appointed, so maybe they'll do what the Mancs did and push it through without consulting the electorate again. Time will tell.
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| This is a bit different from what was rejected in the NE a few years ago, that was basically an imposed structure, but in this case the existing local authorities are the ones who get to put forward the proposals for what they want to do and how they will do it. Local authorities in England's regions are screaming out for more devolved powers so there is a genuine desire from the bottom up, also it appears that there isn't a single model being considered. I think there is a level of consensus amongst all parties at local government level that change has to happen due to demographic profiles/
As far as Conservative Party strategy goes I think it's a safe bet devolving power to the north of England in particular, Labour have lost the initiative on this and if local authorities in Labour heartlands who are asking for this balls it up then responsibility sits with them and they will (probably) be punished by the electorate.
I can see there will be local authorities who are ambitious and willing to seize the opportunities, willing to work together and be innovative, and then you'll have some which are basket cases who struggle to be anything more than charity cases. I look at the local authorities in Greater Manchester who are pushing hard and clearly have ambitions, then I think about the administration of St Helens MBC who I wouldn't trust to run my bath.
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| Is it me or does 'Northern Powerhouse' sound like a genre of dance music?
IMO we'd be better off forgetting about HS2 and instead concentrate on improving railways and roads linking northern towns. Having a high speed line between Liverpool and Hull would be a start. We don't need the kind of trains proposed in HS2, Pendolinos would suffice. I think this would need to be routed through St. Helens rather than Warrington or Wigan. It has shoddy rail services for such a large town.
More motorways need to be built. The M65 needs to carry on over the Pennines to Bradford/Keighley and the M67 needs to be extended to the M1 near Sheffield. This would provide 2 more cross Pennine routes to relieve the M62 which is already over used at the best of times.
Many of the current Motorways in South Lancs were designed to allow for extension, M58, M57 etc. Build more roads and the traffic situation will improve. At the moment if one of the major routes is blocked it causes problems on all other routes. I don't know what it's like in Yorkshire but I'm sure it's a similar situation.
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| Quote wigan_rlfc="wigan_rlfc"Is it me or does 'Northern Powerhouse' sound like a genre of dance music?
IMO we'd be better off forgetting about HS2 and instead concentrate on improving railways and roads linking northern towns. Having a high speed line between Liverpool and Hull would be a start. We don't need the kind of trains proposed in HS2, Pendolinos would suffice. I think this would need to be routed through St. Helens rather than Warrington or Wigan. It has shoddy rail services for such a large town.
More motorways need to be built. The M65 needs to carry on over the Pennines to Bradford/Keighley and the M67 needs to be extended to the M1 near Sheffield. This would provide 2 more cross Pennine routes to relieve the M62 which is already over used at the best of times.
Many of the current Motorways in South Lancs were designed to allow for extension, M58, M57 etc. Build more roads and the traffic situation will improve. At the moment if one of the major routes is blocked it causes problems on all other routes. I don't know what it's like in Yorkshire but I'm sure it's a similar situation.'"
Building bigger and better roads jusy worsens traffic jams.
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