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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:26 pm 
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Looking at some simple correlations here, its quite interesting (yet obvious),

The correlation between winning and number of points conceded = -0.2

The correlation between winning and the number of points scored = 0.8

Basically proving that it doesnt matter how good your defense is if you can't score points.

A high scoring attack is 4 times more strongly correlated to wins when compared to a good defensive stint. Hence why we have been screwed this year...

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 Post subject: Re: Warrington Game
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:46 pm 
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Kosh wrote:Before this round he was the most penalised player in the league. Or joint top, possibly.

C'mon surely you know the term "penalty machine" was thrown at him trying to create negativity whilst ignoring all the positive aspects of his game,a great pro from what i see.






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 Post subject: Re: Warrington Game
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:55 pm 
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oh yes we always have the negative slant on here no matter what,






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 Post subject: Re: Warrington Game
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:56 am 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Good to see/hear this being sung. More of the same please!

https://instagram.com/p/2gio0wlyfy/


Trouble in camp though according to a dead-head poster on here.
Looks like it, doesn't it? :)
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Good to see/hear this being sung. More of the same please!

https://instagram.com/p/2gio0wlyfy/


Trouble in camp though according to a dead-head poster on here.
Looks like it, doesn't it? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Warrington Game
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:20 am 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:He's third in the table. Given away thirteen penalties, so about one a game. There's about sixteen players on 10+ and another ten with nine penalties.

Not really a stand out issue.

As I said, the number was from last round when he was still on 13 and nobody had more.

I didn't actually say that it was a stand out issue. I was just offering some statistical background on why some people might consider him a penalty machine.






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 Post subject: Re: Warrington Game
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:22 am 
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dayvoz wrote:C'mon surely you know the term "penalty machine" was thrown at him trying to create negativity whilst ignoring all the positive aspects of his game,a great pro from what i see.

I know nothing of the sort, and neither do you.

Personally I like Minnicheddars and feel that his positives outweigh his negatives. No point in pretending their aren't any negatives, though.






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Kosh wrote:I know nothing of the sort, and neither do you.

Personally I like Minnicheddars and feel that his positives outweigh his negatives. No point in pretending their aren't any negatives, though.


I must admit, I looked at the stats last week and he had the most penalties and the most errors in the league - but maybe this is a side effect of playing 80 mins week in week out

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Mini is a top player - one of the few top quality ones we have.






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OmneFC wrote:I must admit, I looked at the stats last week and he had the most penalties and the most errors in the league - but maybe this is a side effect of playing 80 mins week in week out


I think that's pretty much a certainty. Over the last few years, look at some of our leading penalty-conceders/error-makers/tackle-missers: Tickle, Westerman, now Minichiello. Manu, Fitzgibbon, Houghton and Whiting are/were others also towards the top end (especially if you look more at averages than totals for Whiting), as has been Ellis (not so much the missed tackles for him, though). Forwards playing big minutes. It's not coincidence, it's heavy involvement and the resulting fatigue, plain and simple.

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Staffs FC wrote:Mini is a top player - one of the few top quality ones we have.


Player of the season if he carries his form to the end of the season

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