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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:32 pm 
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Jake the Peg wrote:It doesn't mean anything really. pearson may think he has things covered with the staff he has

He may do. Or he may think that FC have lost £813k since he took over so why throw good money after bad if the fans have stopped supporting the club in expected numbers.

We can reiterate that it's his fault, consequences of his decisions, team not good enough/entertaining enough, blah blah blah. I totally get all of that. But from his POV he thought he could get results quickly for a limited investment. Cash has clearly been pisssed away on (in many cases) the wrong things. The supply of cash is not infinite, you'd assume and whatever the reasons for the current position, we are where we are. I personally doubt he's got the appetite or resources now to pay off another coach and his entire staff and bring in an whole new set-up with more people who are better qualified with attendances now settled under 10k which is what people on here seem to be suggesting is a reasonable, practical and instantly deliverable piece of change.

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Mrs Barista wrote:Great post. The only bit I'm not sure about is who'd be in the market to buy us when virtually all SL club owners are effectively benefactors. Coach as differentiator is a massive unaddressed issue.


Someone who thinks he can do a better job than Pearson, and has a figure in mind of how much he is willing to lose if it doesn't pan out that way. Without meaning to sound arrogant, we are not like most SL clubs. Whilst we are a shambles now, because of the fan base we are one of the few with the potential to at least self-sustain, if not make a small sum each year providing you run it right.

Pearson would not be able to get close to his money back, but if he really wanted/needed rid, he'd find a taker if he could swallow the loss.

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 Post subject: Re: A new low
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:50 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:He may do. Or he may think that FC have lost £813k since he took over so why throw good money after bad if the fans have stopped supporting the club in expected numbers.

We can reiterate that it's his fault, consequences of his decisions, team not good enough/entertaining enough, blah blah blah. I totally get all of that. But from his POV he thought he could get results quickly for a limited investment. Cash has clearly been pisssed away on (in many cases) the wrong things. The supply of cash is not infinite, you'd assume and whatever the reasons for the current position, we are where we are. I personally doubt he's got the appetite or resources now to pay off another coach and his entire staff and bring in an whole new set-up with more people who are better qualified with attendances now settled under 10k which is what people on here seem to be suggesting is a reasonable, practical and instantly deliverable piece of change.


Isn't Radford's contract up at the end of next season?

How expensive do we think he probably is? Because in all honesty, if it's a choice between the 2 I think it would be smarter investment to ditch one of or even all of these deals Tony has apparently lined up for next season and use the money to pay Radford off. I think we'd get more from a better coach with the same players than some better players under the same coach.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:58 pm 
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carl_spackler wrote:Isn't Radford's contract up at the end of next season?

How expensive do we think he probably is? Because in all honesty, if it's a choice between the 2 I think it would be smarter investment to ditch one of or even all of these deals Tony has apparently lined up for next season and use the money to pay Radford off. I think we'd get more from a better coach with the same players than some better players under the same coach.
Who's this new coach everyone wants? I don't see one available and willing to come. You're kidding yourself if you think it's that easy.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: A new low
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:05 pm 
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ccs wrote:Who's this new coach everyone wants? I don't see one available and willing to come. You're kidding yourself if you think it's that easy.


That old chestnut. If you are willing to pay the money you can have almost anyone you like, they all have a price.

Worst case scenario is we get one of several promising Championship coaches who would jump at a chance to come and who all have more ideas and experience than Radford.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:10 pm 
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:That old chestnut. If you are willing to pay the money you can have almost anyone you like, they all have a price.

Worst case scenario is we get one of several promising Championship coaches who would jump at a chance to come and who all have more ideas and experience than Radford.
Ah.... that old chestnut.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: A new low
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:12 pm 
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ccs wrote:Ah.... that old chestnut.


What, that people are driven by money?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:19 pm 
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:What, that people are driven by money?
Well, I'm sure there must be hundreds, but I can't think of any respected head coach moving on mid-season to another club.
I'm sure you'll prove me wrong, but most change clubs at the end of their contract, or when they reach their sell by date.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:22 pm 
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carl_spackler wrote:Isn't Radford's contract up at the end of next season?

How expensive do we think he probably is? Because in all honesty, if it's a choice between the 2 I think it would be smarter investment to ditch one of or even all of these deals Tony has apparently lined up for next season and use the money to pay Radford off. I think we'd get more from a better coach with the same players than some better players under the same coach.

I agree with you fully.

From AP's broader perspective gates are down say 1000 a game at £15 so £15k a game or £165k for the season. Say Radford's on £60k with a deal to November 2016 so in theory needs £90k to be paid out. There's quarter of a million quid unbudgeted shortfall - folk need to be realistic about the extent of change that can accommodated.

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 Post subject: Re: A new low
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ccs wrote:Well, I'm sure there must be hundreds, but I can't think of any respected head coach moving on mid-season to another club.
I'm sure you'll prove me wrong, but most change clubs at the end of their contract, or when they reach their sell by date.


2 proven guys are available.. Matt Elliott & Mick Potter.. they would do a far better job than Radford.

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