Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:37 pm
Ferocious Aardvark
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If I read it correctly it's not that, it's that CPS seem to have decided that he isn't compos mentis enough to be interviewed. Not that they interview people, but hey. I fully accept that despite this, he may well be up to the standard for the HOL, where the requirement is seemingly to have a pulse. I'm not sure if it's mandatory.
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Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:03 pm
cod'ead
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:If I read it correctly it's not that, it's that CPS seem to have decided that he isn't compos mentis enough to be interviewed. Not that they interview people, but hey. I fully accept that despite this, he may well be up to the standard for the HOL, where the requirement is seemingly to have a pulse. I'm not sure if it's mandatory.
Remember Ernest Saunders?
Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one).
I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice
Ferocious Aardvark wrote:If I read it correctly it's not that, it's that CPS seem to have decided that he isn't compos mentis enough to be interviewed. Not that they interview people, but hey. I fully accept that despite this, he may well be up to the standard for the HOL, where the requirement is seemingly to have a pulse. I'm not sure if it's mandatory.
Remember Ernest Saunders?
Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one).
I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice
The older I get, the better I was
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Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:01 pm
Big Graeme
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cod'ead wrote:He was fit enough to vote in HoL on 26 November 2013.
His dementia must've been a particularly rapid-onset variant
Mmm, having seen someone go downhill with this 18 ish months isn't that much of a rapid-onset, depends how bad he was when in HoL, I actually thought it was a requirement. Mind the Guinness case was the first thing that came to my mind too.
Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:49 am
Ferocious Aardvark
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cod'ead wrote:Remember Ernest Saunders?
Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one).
I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice
Frank Beck, who was convicted in the case where he named Jenner was not a lucky guy. A couple of years after sentence he conveniently dropped dead after game of badminton. The fact that his appeal against conviction was coming up is, I am sure, totally unrelated.
cod'ead wrote:Remember Ernest Saunders?
Released early from his prison sentence because he was suffering from Altzheimers. A few months later he made a full recovery (must be the only one).
I always thought it was up to the judiciary to decide whether anyone was fit to stand trial, not the DPP. Mind you, Alison Saunders does appear to have previous in such matters, take a look at her "forgetting" to hand over important documents to the defence in the Barry George trial for Jill Dando's murder
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories but there have been numerous rumours that Dando was also investigating child abuse by VIPs and that investigation led to her being silenced with extreme prejudice
Frank Beck, who was convicted in the case where he named Jenner was not a lucky guy. A couple of years after sentence he conveniently dropped dead after game of badminton. The fact that his appeal against conviction was coming up is, I am sure, totally unrelated.
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Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:24 am
cod'ead
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Big Graeme wrote:Mmm, having seen someone go downhill with this 18 ish months isn't that much of a rapid-onset, depends how bad he was when in HoL, I actually thought it was a requirement. Mind the Guinness case was the first thing that came to my mind too.
According to the Sunday Times, just two weeks ago Janner signed a request to extend his membership of the HoL despite his leave of absence
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 pm
cod'ead
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Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
The Times has also discovered that the barrister advising Alsion Saunders worked, until recently at the same chambers as Janner's son
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:19 pm
Big Graeme
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cod'ead wrote:According to the Sunday Times, just two weeks ago Janner signed a request to extend his membership of the HoL despite his leave of absence
Post subject: Re: Historical sexual abuse charges...
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:04 pm
cod'ead
International Chairman
Joined: May 25 2002 Posts: 37704 Location: Zummerzet, where the zoider apples grow
At least Keith Harris died before he could face charges of sticking his hand up a young bird
The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator."
cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan
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