Post subject: Re: So, what happens if we DO beat saints?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:14 pm
WormInHand
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Crumbs, based on all these formulas and calculations, Peter Sharp should have been given the job until he was as old as Methuselah, based on his winning 17 match run, broken only by a fluke 2 point defeat away to London!
For me, it's not about stats, it's about gut feeling and confidence in the team, the coaching and the atmosphere surrounding the club. For me, it felt positive overall when Sharp was in charge as his tenure was mitigated by the horrific injury toll he had to cope with. Similarly, with Gentle - even with the ups and downs the underlying trend was one I felt to be of building and strengthening - again, mitigating circumstances which in this case had nothing to do with injuries did for him, imo.
I did not feel that confidence under Agar's tenure, nor do I since Radford assumed the helm.
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Post subject: Re: So, what happens if we DO beat saints?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:52 pm
carl_spackler
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*1865* wrote:It's only my opinion, but I subscribe to the thought that what was being achieved during Agar's last couple of years and Gentle's two years was as far as we could ever have gone without the complete overhaul of everything at the club that's been going on, especially last year. Therefore, for me last year was starting from scratch and that's why I see making the 8 as improvement.
It probably won't surprise you to say that I don't. I wasn't overly happy with the rate of improvement in Gentle's second year, but I did still think we were improving, and was hopeful/believing that that would continue. 2 of the main reasons for reassurance being that the amount of close wins as opposed to close losses then gave me hope that we were gradually developing a winning culture, and the fact that we started to turn over the better sides with a bit more regularity and authority suggested that we were starting to have less fear of them. Consistency was still an issue, though.
Post subject: Re: So, what happens if we DO beat saints?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:54 pm
Doc Brown
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WormInHand wrote:Crumbs, based on all these formulas and calculations, Peter Sharp should have been given the job until he was as old as Methuselah, based on his winning 17 match run, broken only by a fluke 2 point defeat away to London!
For me, it's not about stats, it's about gut feeling and confidence in the team, the coaching and the atmosphere surrounding the club. For me, it felt positive overall when Sharp was in charge as his tenure was mitigated by the horrific injury toll he had to cope with. Similarly, with Gentle - even with the ups and downs the underlying trend was one I felt to be of building and strengthening - again, mitigating circumstances which in this case had nothing to do with injuries did for him, imo.
I did not feel that confidence under Agar's tenure, nor do I since Radford assumed the helm.
Sums things up nicely for me. Sharp and Gentle I had confidence in. I'd like to throw John Kear into the ring there too as I had confidence in him. Agar and Radford, not so much. A lot of it is about gut feeling. I liked what I saw under Kear, Sharp and Gentle and would have happily seen them remain in charge at the club.
Post subject: Re: So, what happens if we DO beat saints?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:57 pm
carl_spackler
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Joined: Feb 20 2007 Posts: 10540 Location: Hunting Gopher
WormInHand wrote:Crumbs, based on all these formulas and calculations, Peter Sharp should have been given the job until he was as old as Methuselah, based on his winning 17 match run, broken only by a fluke 2 point defeat away to London!
For me, it's not about stats, it's about gut feeling and confidence in the team, the coaching and the atmosphere surrounding the club. For me, it felt positive overall when Sharp was in charge as his tenure was mitigated by the horrific injury toll he had to cope with. Similarly, with Gentle - even with the ups and downs the underlying trend was one I felt to be of building and strengthening - again, mitigating circumstances which in this case had nothing to do with injuries did for him, imo.
I did not feel that confidence under Agar's tenure, nor do I since Radford assumed the helm.
I agree. It feels worryingly like the Agar tenure again to me. Bad results/performances are easier to deal with if you think things will get better, it just doesn't feel like they will bar the odd game at the moment IMO.
Post subject: Re: So, what happens if we DO beat saints?
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:57 pm
WormInHand
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Joined: Mar 11 2007 Posts: 5659 Location: Next to Ramsgate Sands c.1850 in West Hull
Doc Brown wrote:Sums things up nicely for me. Sharp and Gentle I had confidence in. I'd like to throw John Kear into the ring there too as I had confidence in him. Agar and Radford, not so much. A lot of it is about gut feeling. I liked what I saw under Kear, Sharp and Gentle and would have happily seen them remain in charge at the club.
Agree, Kear being another dispatched prematurely, again amidst mitigating circumstances and once again those alleged to be player power, if the Swain rumours are true.
I'm a fairly simple person, with a basic gauge system to measure my feelings - the primary emotion. I was frustrated and disappointed when the respective announcements that all three of Kear, Sharp and Gentle had gone. I felt each had more to offer and their chapters weren't closed even though the book was slammed shut.
Conversely, I felt sick with relief when Agar went, and hopeful for the first time in years. I don't feel hopeful now.
Philip Larkin wrote:
There ain’t no music East side of this city That’s mellow like mine is, That’s mellow like mine.
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