Joined: Jul 31 2003 Posts: 36786 Location: Leafy Worcester, home of the Black Pear
OK - I'm just going to step in here and make a general point.
There are people on both sides of the debate - although honestly I think there's now only one side to this debate with varying degrees of fervour being expressed - that are taking things too far. This needs to stop.
There are no 'club apologists' posting on this forum, and labelling someone as such simply because they don't express their dissatisfaction with the regularity or intensity of others is not acceptable.
Similarly, not every member of the so-called 'angry brigade' is a troll who wants the club to fail or is only interested in doing the club down at every turn. Don't take troll-hunting into your own hands.
If you can't make your point with insulting other board members then don't bother posting. If you can't stick to that principle then that option will be taken away from you.
Passions are clearly running high but that's no excuse for behaviour which pushes the AUP to the limits and occasionally beyond. Most of us posting on here want the same thing at the end of the day.
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There are plenty of positives about what AP has done for Hull, its just with Radford as coach we are not seeing very many of them on the pitch at the moment. I really don't understand why AP thinks Radford is the man to fix this - he's actually been making it worse as far as I can see.
I will say this though - Currently, I don't think Radford is the man to coach FC - I just don't think h has the ability at this level. If (and its a big big if) Radford can turn it around - we start winning these close games and coming up with results and we end up in the top 8 - the Kudos to him... sadly I don't think it will happen
Joined: Nov 30 2002 Posts: 3524 Location: North Hull
While we have players at this Club that don't care we will never step up . There is an element in the squad that are content just to take money . The behaviour of a couple of our players towards their own fans after the Cas game was inexcusable. It took for another player to apologise for them . No heart , no commitment, no passion. Just mercenaries!!
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Kosh wrote:OK - I'm just going to step in here and make a general point.
There are people on both sides of the debate - although honestly I think there's now only one side to this debate with varying degrees of fervour being expressed - that are taking things too far. This needs to stop.
There are no 'club apologists' posting on this forum, and labelling someone as such simply because they don't express their dissatisfaction with the regularity or intensity of others is not acceptable.
Similarly, not every member of the so-called 'angry brigade' is a troll who wants the club to fail or is only interested in doing the club down at every turn. Don't take troll-hunting into your own hands.
If you can't make your point with insulting other board members then don't bother posting. If you can't stick to that principle then that option will be taken away from you.
Passions are clearly running high but that's no excuse for behaviour which pushes the AUP to the limits and occasionally beyond. Most of us posting on here want the same thing at the end of the day.
Spot on, particularly the 5th paragraph. Well said.
WormInHand wrote:Incomprehensible is the word. I think Lang Park's insight into Pearson's possible mindset yesterday may shed some light on this, depressing though this is.
But at what point will he see the truth and react? When we look like being relegated? When we are relegated? When we can no longer sustain our contract at the KC and have to leave (as Pearson himself alluded would be the case should relegation occur at a fans' forum, iirc)?
Can he afford to 'undig' his heels? Or does he still have enough in the coffers to allow him to take action even if he has the will? And to whom will he feel he can go to for advice after his trust in McRae so embittered him, if anyone? Does he have any independent advisors at all or is Radford the sole mutterer in his ear?
I just feel the whole situation looks very bleak and has the aura of being caught up in a landslip that has already started so therefore can't stop.
I think Pearson was scaremongering about finances to boost lacklustre pass sales.
From what has been disclosed about the clubs KC deal, we would be paying little to nothing to use the KC if crowds went below 7.5k. The deal was partly designed to protect the club in bad times and partly because Richardson/Hetherington under estimated how much the KC move would grow our crowds.
Yes playing to under 7.5k in the Championship would be grim and Allam would close some stands but unless there's some clauses we don't know about the KC would cost us less not more. We'd also be able to offload some high earners are contracts go null and void when relegated. So again it'd be grim and embarrassing but it wouldent be the end.
HFC Boy wrote:While we have players at this Club that don't care we will never step up . There is an element in the squad that are content just to take money . The behaviour of a couple of our players towards their own fans after the Cas game was inexcusable. It took for another player to apologise for them . No heart , no commitment, no passion. Just mercenaries!!
Let us know please which players you are talking about? Ive seen plenty of effort and commitment on the field but no direction.The style of play is exactly the same as last season despite pearson telling us we will see attractive attacking football. There is only one problem at the club and that is the current coach.he has had plenty of time to change the style of rugby and work on players individual faults. Radford may be good at paperwork and keeping stats but that doesn't win matches.
To be fair I do think the statement by Kosh is long overdue. It has been apparent that posters who have not agreed with, or, even more, challenged the views of Mrs Barista and her dwindling gang of playground bullies, have been subjected to ridicule and even abuse on this forum. As the teams performances have become worse and the clubs position precarious more fans, at least on here, have become more outspoken and vehement and Mrs Barista's position has become even more isolated thus causing anger and friction between the realists and the idealist's.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29816 Location: West Yorkshire
Structured wrote:To be fair I do think the statement by Kosh is long overdue. It has been apparent that posters who have not agreed with, or, even more, challenged the views of Mrs Barista and her dwindling gang of playground bullies, have been subjected to ridicule and even abuse on this forum. As the teams performances have become worse and the clubs position precarious more fans, at least on here, have become more outspoken and vehement and Mrs Barista's position has become even more isolated thus causing anger and friction between the realists and the idealist's.
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